1 00:00:06,550 --> 00:00:03,510 yeah yeah we're ready 2 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:06,560 yeah all right we're live hey hey 3 00:00:09,910 --> 00:00:09,040 yeah this is another episode of ufo 4 00:00:11,749 --> 00:00:09,920 garage 5 00:00:13,589 --> 00:00:11,759 i'm ben and i'm joe and this is where we 6 00:00:16,950 --> 00:00:13,599 talk about ufos 7 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:16,960 aliens and all things weird 8 00:00:23,029 --> 00:00:20,080 baby yeah what's up man 9 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:23,039 another thursday another thursday it's 10 00:00:28,230 --> 00:00:26,240 not as thirsty but i am thirsty 11 00:00:29,269 --> 00:00:28,240 not a thirsty thursday but it is a 12 00:00:32,150 --> 00:00:29,279 thursday 13 00:00:34,549 --> 00:00:32,160 and uh i don't know man i'm uh pretty 14 00:00:37,110 --> 00:00:34,559 stoked about our guest tonight we've got 15 00:00:38,950 --> 00:00:37,120 we've got los alamos mike and i made 16 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:38,960 that name up by the way i was like i 17 00:00:42,069 --> 00:00:40,320 emailed him i was like hey what should i 18 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:42,079 call you he's like 19 00:00:45,830 --> 00:00:44,399 it doesn't matter so we're sticking with 20 00:00:49,029 --> 00:00:45,840 the los alamos mike 21 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:49,039 you don't have to call me 22 00:00:55,029 --> 00:00:52,800 merle haggard hell yeah dude 23 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:55,039 yeah dude that's awesome yeah tonight's 24 00:00:57,510 --> 00:00:56,320 gonna be pretty sweet and 25 00:00:59,590 --> 00:00:57,520 it's gonna be one of my favorites 26 00:01:02,470 --> 00:00:59,600 because i already know because 27 00:01:03,910 --> 00:01:02,480 some of my favorite ones are are the 28 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:03,920 interviews that we do where 29 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:05,519 we don't really know much about the 30 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:07,119 person and we just kind of 31 00:01:11,109 --> 00:01:09,600 open it up like a book and and go for it 32 00:01:12,149 --> 00:01:11,119 you know what i'm saying yeah those are 33 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:12,159 always the most interesting 34 00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:14,400 so this is gonna be pretty dope yeah i'm 35 00:01:18,630 --> 00:01:15,520 excited uh 36 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:18,640 so yeah while we bring on uh micro mic 37 00:01:24,789 --> 00:01:22,560 dude what's up man mike how you doing 38 00:01:26,550 --> 00:01:24,799 i'm doing great how are you doing good 39 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:26,560 man good we're doing good we're excited 40 00:01:29,670 --> 00:01:27,920 to have you on today for sure 41 00:01:31,109 --> 00:01:29,680 yeah we finally get to talk about stuff 42 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:31,119 now yeah 43 00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:34,400 you gotta be excited definitely man 44 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:37,200 definitely so dude uh i'm so glad you 45 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:38,560 reached out to us man 46 00:01:42,550 --> 00:01:40,880 like uh i was reading a bit of your your 47 00:01:43,670 --> 00:01:42,560 email your initial email just saying 48 00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:43,680 hello and 49 00:01:47,590 --> 00:01:46,240 i got like halfway down and i'm like oh 50 00:01:49,670 --> 00:01:47,600 okay i've gotta i've gotta 51 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:49,680 i've got excited and i have to reach out 52 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:50,640 to this dude 53 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:52,640 and and i read the rest of the email and 54 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:54,000 it's just like all right you've got 55 00:01:59,749 --> 00:01:57,439 me hooked so some of the things are just 56 00:02:01,429 --> 00:01:59,759 you know kind of blew my mind and and 57 00:02:02,950 --> 00:02:01,439 the fact that you were in vietnam i mean 58 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:02,960 i don't want to give a little bit of bio 59 00:02:04,870 --> 00:02:04,320 about you so why don't you tell 60 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:04,880 everybody 61 00:02:09,669 --> 00:02:08,239 a little bit about yourself well i guess 62 00:02:12,790 --> 00:02:09,679 i'm basically a philosopher 63 00:02:15,910 --> 00:02:12,800 i've spent my life in the search for 64 00:02:19,030 --> 00:02:15,920 truth and wisdom and unity in the cosmos 65 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:19,040 um i was an average student i 66 00:02:24,869 --> 00:02:23,120 went to vietnam to get away from my dad 67 00:02:26,229 --> 00:02:24,879 later i went to college when i got back 68 00:02:28,309 --> 00:02:26,239 because college seems pretty good 69 00:02:33,509 --> 00:02:28,319 compared to vietnam 70 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:35,190 it was in the computer industry for a 71 00:02:40,710 --> 00:02:37,519 number of years 72 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:40,720 i invented computers started in 1978 in 73 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:42,640 1981 i introduced a 74 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:46,080 computer with 17 core processors 75 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:49,120 so i was a little ahead of my time 76 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:53,040 um and then uh became the point where i 77 00:02:55,670 --> 00:02:53,760 wanted to 78 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:55,680 study my philosophy so i essentially 79 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:58,239 gave up all the material world and 80 00:03:01,830 --> 00:03:01,200 i took out on foot and walked around the 81 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:01,840 country 82 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:06,480 ended up in roswell 83 00:03:12,949 --> 00:03:09,760 ended up in several places um like that 84 00:03:15,190 --> 00:03:12,959 um i came to los alamos 85 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:15,200 when someone offered to make a movie 86 00:03:20,229 --> 00:03:16,720 about a meteorite that i'll 87 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:20,239 talk to you about a little bit and um 88 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:22,480 ended up staying here um it's a 89 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:24,480 wonderful place it's 90 00:03:28,949 --> 00:03:26,560 my joke is that the scientist i have 91 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:28,959 here that i can talk to 92 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:30,799 but after talking to scientists it's a 93 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:32,159 lot like hitting your head against the 94 00:03:37,270 --> 00:03:33,280 wall 95 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:39,270 and so i have the force here to recover 96 00:03:42,869 --> 00:03:41,280 my sanity after i try to talk to them 97 00:03:44,869 --> 00:03:42,879 about different things 98 00:03:46,550 --> 00:03:44,879 you know from the ufo thing most people 99 00:03:48,309 --> 00:03:46,560 think you're crazy if you just mention 100 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:48,319 the word ufo 101 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:50,239 um you're automatically put in some 102 00:03:53,750 --> 00:03:51,760 category 103 00:03:54,869 --> 00:03:53,760 and i challenge your science in a lot of 104 00:03:57,910 --> 00:03:54,879 areas and they just 105 00:04:00,949 --> 00:03:57,920 don't like that right 106 00:04:01,990 --> 00:04:00,959 yeah so um man so you mentioned that you 107 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:02,000 were you were in 108 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:03,920 vietnam when you had your first sighting 109 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:05,920 uh tell us about that like what year was 110 00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:06,640 that 111 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:10,159 1968 um 112 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:11,680 really it to me it goes back to the 113 00:04:17,670 --> 00:04:15,439 1950s when i was in elementary school 114 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:17,680 and my teacher told us that the stars 115 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:19,600 were sons like our very own but they 116 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:21,440 were just far away 117 00:04:25,350 --> 00:04:23,440 well i immediately assume if this our 118 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:25,360 star had a planet with people on it that 119 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:27,440 all the stars had planets with people on 120 00:04:30,790 --> 00:04:28,320 them so 121 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:30,800 from that moment on i guess i believed 122 00:04:34,790 --> 00:04:31,759 in 123 00:04:36,550 --> 00:04:34,800 aliens um 124 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:36,560 i don't know i just seem logical to a 125 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:37,840 young child 126 00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:41,199 absolutely so um after i joined the 127 00:04:46,310 --> 00:04:44,240 marine corps to get away from my dad 128 00:04:47,749 --> 00:04:46,320 he had made all the decisions for me in 129 00:04:49,749 --> 00:04:47,759 my whole life 130 00:04:51,270 --> 00:04:49,759 and so i finally made my own decision to 131 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:51,280 join the marine corps and then 132 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:52,720 of course they made the decisions for 133 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:54,560 the next four years 134 00:05:01,029 --> 00:04:56,730 so i really showed him by getting away 135 00:05:03,430 --> 00:05:01,039 [Laughter] 136 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:03,440 but anyway i ended up in in the marine 137 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:04,240 corps band 138 00:05:09,830 --> 00:05:07,120 and in the third marine division in 139 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:09,840 vietnam we were stationed in 140 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:12,320 um it was the general's band so he kept 141 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:14,400 the band close to him 142 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:16,880 we didn't really do any fighting we did 143 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:19,120 do some patrols but mostly we just did 144 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:20,400 guard duty 145 00:05:24,469 --> 00:05:22,880 so on this particular night we gathered 146 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:24,479 on top of the mountain overlooking the 147 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:25,600 name 148 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:32,070 there was about 50 or 60 of us and um 149 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:34,479 we just standing there waiting to be 150 00:05:38,550 --> 00:05:36,479 assigned our guard stations 151 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:38,560 and somebody all of a sudden said what's 152 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:39,600 that 153 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:41,520 and we all looked up and there's what we 154 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:43,919 now know is called a cyclodiscus 155 00:05:49,990 --> 00:05:46,960 the small round craft that the that the 156 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:50,000 zeta regular use to travel um 157 00:05:53,590 --> 00:05:51,360 from planet to planet and from the 158 00:05:55,510 --> 00:05:53,600 surface to planet to other things 159 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:55,520 and so it was hovering i'd say about a 160 00:06:00,230 --> 00:05:57,600 hundred feet above us 161 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:00,240 and for ten minutes it hovered there and 162 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:02,080 there was some kind of colored light 163 00:06:05,749 --> 00:06:03,840 that appeared around the edge of it 164 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:05,759 circling around it 165 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:08,080 it wasn't really a light but there was 166 00:06:10,629 --> 00:06:09,680 there was colored light that was going 167 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:10,639 around 168 00:06:14,870 --> 00:06:12,800 and then after about 10 minutes it just 169 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:14,880 took off straight up it was gone in a 170 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:15,520 second 171 00:06:19,909 --> 00:06:18,240 like it was on a big rubber band and 172 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:19,919 somebody had yanked the other end of 173 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:22,960 it um and so it was gone 174 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:25,919 and it's strange i've been thinking 175 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:27,360 about it a lot lately 176 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:29,919 none of us ever mentioned it we never 177 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:31,120 talked about it 178 00:06:34,710 --> 00:06:33,039 all of us just turned about that time we 179 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:34,720 got a regard of signs once we all just 180 00:06:38,469 --> 00:06:35,840 turned and left and 181 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:38,479 really forgot it i mean what do you 182 00:06:43,909 --> 00:06:40,800 think what do you do 183 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:43,919 when you're a young guy yeah yeah that's 184 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:46,800 something you know doesn't exist that 185 00:06:49,990 --> 00:06:48,479 seems to be a common theme you know 186 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:50,000 people that see these things for some 187 00:06:53,189 --> 00:06:50,720 reason they 188 00:06:53,990 --> 00:06:53,199 have this disinterested attitude 189 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:54,000 afterwards 190 00:06:57,029 --> 00:06:55,759 and you know that's a that's a pretty 191 00:06:59,990 --> 00:06:57,039 common theme man 192 00:07:01,909 --> 00:07:00,000 you know well i was at the ufo museum in 193 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:01,919 roswell for 194 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:04,560 four or five months talked about 20 000 195 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:05,360 people 196 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:07,440 almost everybody somebody in every group 197 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:08,639 had seen something 198 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:10,400 in every case i'd ask them what have you 199 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:11,759 ever told anybody 200 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:15,039 and it's oh no they think i was crazy 201 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:17,360 and i guess they felt secure in the ufo 202 00:07:21,029 --> 00:07:18,080 museum 203 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:21,039 they could tell their stories yeah but 204 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:23,280 yeah you're right it's um 205 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:25,280 you're automatically crazy if you think 206 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:27,840 there's a you know alien life 207 00:07:31,670 --> 00:07:31,120 yeah but before you like you know bring 208 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:31,680 in like 209 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:33,440 society and culture like how did you 210 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:35,280 feel in the moment when you were 211 00:07:38,550 --> 00:07:36,960 watching this thing i mean you mentioned 212 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:38,560 that you and your your 213 00:07:43,589 --> 00:07:41,919 uh uh your crew kind of just 214 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:43,599 kind of forgot about it turned around 215 00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:45,120 and did did you 216 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:48,319 feel any some sort of way when you were 217 00:07:53,430 --> 00:07:50,000 watching this thing for 10 minutes 218 00:07:54,710 --> 00:07:53,440 no it was just purely i can't say i 219 00:07:57,670 --> 00:07:54,720 thought or felt anything 220 00:07:58,869 --> 00:07:57,680 it was just it was just an experience 221 00:08:03,430 --> 00:07:58,879 and 222 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:03,440 can you think about it at a young age 223 00:08:07,830 --> 00:08:04,160 that was 224 00:08:13,749 --> 00:08:07,840 50 years ago you know more 225 00:08:15,510 --> 00:08:13,759 yeah yeah yeah and so 226 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:15,520 over time you know you develop feelings 227 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:17,520 about it but it's only since 228 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:18,960 lately that i've been thinking about it 229 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:20,800 more 230 00:08:27,029 --> 00:08:23,840 yeah so you had mentioned it 231 00:08:28,909 --> 00:08:27,039 you called it a uh uh it was a cyclodesk 232 00:08:32,469 --> 00:08:28,919 it's like 233 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:32,479 cyclodiscus yeah so one of the most like 234 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:34,000 interesting things to me about this 235 00:08:36,310 --> 00:08:34,880 whole thing is 236 00:08:38,230 --> 00:08:36,320 you know we always talk about craft in 237 00:08:38,790 --> 00:08:38,240 the sky whether it be like this ball of 238 00:08:41,509 --> 00:08:38,800 light 239 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:41,519 or whether it be like a uh you know a 240 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:43,200 tic tac or a cigar 241 00:08:49,829 --> 00:08:46,320 or a disc you know and well working 242 00:08:53,030 --> 00:08:49,839 triangular craft is called a triaculus 243 00:08:54,870 --> 00:08:53,040 that would make sense and there's some 244 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:54,880 really interesting reports of you know 245 00:08:59,829 --> 00:08:56,640 what that thing does 246 00:09:00,470 --> 00:08:59,839 yeah one thing interesting that you did 247 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:00,480 though was 248 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:04,880 it was you you put a an actual species 249 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:07,200 to a craft which is one of my favorite 250 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:09,040 things to think about 251 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:11,040 like okay so there's all these different 252 00:09:15,110 --> 00:09:12,240 kinds right 253 00:09:15,509 --> 00:09:15,120 who's flying what you know which species 254 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:15,519 has 255 00:09:21,190 --> 00:09:19,040 these certain types of craft and and 256 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:21,200 or or is it one species that has all 257 00:09:27,269 --> 00:09:23,200 this all the different craft like 258 00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:31,990 yeah that'd be great yes yes 259 00:09:46,230 --> 00:09:43,670 and for the background we should 260 00:09:47,190 --> 00:09:46,240 probably talk about the urantia book for 261 00:09:49,750 --> 00:09:47,200 a minute 262 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:49,760 um one of the things it says is that we 263 00:09:54,150 --> 00:09:51,120 are the 264 00:09:58,710 --> 00:09:54,160 the 5 trillion 342 billionth 265 00:10:01,990 --> 00:09:58,720 482 million 337 666 266 00:10:05,110 --> 00:10:02,000 inhabited planet in the grand universe 267 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:05,120 friends were not alone how many i mean 268 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:06,480 how many times does it taste 269 00:10:12,150 --> 00:10:10,160 really planets right now yeah 270 00:10:14,069 --> 00:10:12,160 before you go into more of the urantia 271 00:10:16,150 --> 00:10:14,079 book for those that don't know what the 272 00:10:17,590 --> 00:10:16,160 rancho book is can you explain a little 273 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:17,600 bit about what this 274 00:10:23,269 --> 00:10:20,880 this book is to people yes basically 275 00:10:25,509 --> 00:10:23,279 it's a revelation of god to men 276 00:10:27,910 --> 00:10:25,519 um but a true revelation concerns 277 00:10:30,550 --> 00:10:27,920 everything it concerns science cosmology 278 00:10:32,069 --> 00:10:30,560 religion philosophy earth history 279 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:32,079 universe history 280 00:10:35,269 --> 00:10:34,560 all these kind of things are covered so 281 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:35,279 it's a 282 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:38,800 it took 283 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:42,000 over um 70 years and 400 humans to bring 284 00:10:46,710 --> 00:10:43,200 it into print 285 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:46,720 it started around 1900 when macaventia 286 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:47,680 milk cheese 287 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:50,560 dick decided to do this so many things 288 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:51,920 has gone wrong in our planet 289 00:11:00,630 --> 00:10:55,680 that we needed to know what's going on 290 00:11:05,110 --> 00:11:03,590 a man started in 1934 and 35 began 291 00:11:06,630 --> 00:11:05,120 speaking in his sleep and a group of 292 00:11:09,750 --> 00:11:06,640 philosophers recorded it 293 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:09,760 in the city of chicago uh his name is 294 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:13,040 as uh winfred kellogg he was the um 295 00:11:16,150 --> 00:11:14,640 the cousin of the inventor of the 296 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:16,160 cornflake 297 00:11:21,350 --> 00:11:19,440 and so it took until 1955 to print the 298 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:21,360 first version of it and it was 299 00:11:25,829 --> 00:11:24,560 printed in anticipation of the time of 300 00:11:28,069 --> 00:11:25,839 its need 301 00:11:30,230 --> 00:11:28,079 it talks about a moving from a totally 302 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:30,240 materialistic society to a spiritual 303 00:11:32,949 --> 00:11:31,200 society 304 00:11:35,110 --> 00:11:32,959 and that the process was beginning and 305 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:35,120 at some point we would need this book 306 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:38,480 to help us in our journey so 307 00:11:45,190 --> 00:11:42,160 um we don't know who 308 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:45,200 we don't know who really wrote we know 309 00:11:49,350 --> 00:11:46,880 who published the book 310 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:49,360 um well all the members yeah all the 311 00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:50,560 authors are included and they're 312 00:11:53,990 --> 00:11:52,399 celestial beings like them accuse the 313 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:54,000 dicks angels 314 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:55,440 if you want to know about the garden of 315 00:12:00,389 --> 00:11:58,560 eden solania wrote those sections she 316 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:00,399 was the angel in the garden who told it 317 00:12:03,670 --> 00:12:03,040 adam and eve they defaulted in the bible 318 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:03,680 she's called 319 00:12:08,629 --> 00:12:06,720 the voice in the garden so we have an 320 00:12:09,990 --> 00:12:08,639 exact account of these material sons and 321 00:12:11,269 --> 00:12:10,000 daughters how they came to earth what 322 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:11,279 their assignment was 323 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:13,360 how they went wrong how it's affected 324 00:12:17,590 --> 00:12:16,160 earth um 325 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:17,600 we've we've had a terrible thing 326 00:12:22,069 --> 00:12:18,959 everything that could go wrong on our 327 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:25,350 so so to update it what so why we know 328 00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:27,360 so much is because 329 00:12:32,069 --> 00:12:29,680 the reason i think that it's time for it 330 00:12:33,829 --> 00:12:32,079 is a series of updates have appeared 331 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:33,839 and i've been in touch with a contact 332 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:36,000 author he's an anonymous person who's 333 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:38,800 just a messenger who's gone through the 334 00:12:41,910 --> 00:12:40,320 same procedure he's 335 00:12:43,750 --> 00:12:41,920 become so spiritual that he's 336 00:12:46,230 --> 00:12:43,760 essentially fused with god 337 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:46,240 internally and through that they can 338 00:12:48,949 --> 00:12:47,040 have him 339 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:48,959 speak things i suspect what happens is 340 00:12:51,750 --> 00:12:51,040 he speaks it in his sleep and records it 341 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:51,760 then 342 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:54,320 this poor guy was a high school dropout 343 00:12:57,269 --> 00:12:55,680 knew nothing about 344 00:12:59,430 --> 00:12:57,279 publishing or anything or word 345 00:13:00,949 --> 00:12:59,440 processing and he's managed to publish 346 00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:00,959 some books although they're full of 347 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:02,800 human mistakes 348 00:13:11,269 --> 00:13:06,560 but in the in the latest update 349 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:15,110 and um in the it's really 350 00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:17,360 about uh lucifer rebellion and all the 351 00:13:20,790 --> 00:13:18,320 consequences 352 00:13:22,150 --> 00:13:20,800 and clarifying the concept of hell and 353 00:13:23,829 --> 00:13:22,160 then right in the middle of all this are 354 00:13:25,430 --> 00:13:23,839 three papers about the aliens there's 355 00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:25,440 one about crystalia 356 00:13:28,870 --> 00:13:27,040 which is the most valuable substance in 357 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:28,880 the world or in the universe 358 00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:31,120 and which has been mine on the nearby 359 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:33,200 world called mocumbria 360 00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:35,440 and then it has a section on the zeta 361 00:13:38,949 --> 00:13:36,720 regular 362 00:13:40,710 --> 00:13:38,959 so the zetas are the one who are 363 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:40,720 transporting everybody 364 00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:42,480 they're three thousand years ahead of us 365 00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:44,160 in technology 366 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:47,519 they have a a combined bio 367 00:13:50,949 --> 00:13:50,160 computer brain they've somehow learned 368 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:50,959 insert 369 00:13:55,030 --> 00:13:53,600 an advanced computer and so they're not 370 00:13:57,750 --> 00:13:55,040 only smarter than us 371 00:13:58,310 --> 00:13:57,760 they have more brains in those but 372 00:14:03,910 --> 00:13:58,320 they're 373 00:14:04,949 --> 00:14:03,920 fought and lucifer rebellion on the side 374 00:14:07,829 --> 00:14:04,959 of jesus 375 00:14:11,269 --> 00:14:07,839 um they're they're wonderful beings and 376 00:14:14,389 --> 00:14:11,279 they came here in 1947 to 377 00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:14,399 to establish peace between our worlds 378 00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:16,399 their government has mandated that they 379 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:18,480 contact us 380 00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:21,760 but we're a semi-civilized world and in 381 00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:24,399 1947 an experimental craft was studying 382 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:26,399 the radiation in the atmosphere 383 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:28,880 when it began being tracked by our us 384 00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:30,079 military 385 00:14:33,350 --> 00:14:32,160 and when it entered u.s airspace it was 386 00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:33,360 shot down over 387 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:35,839 near roswell and that's the incident 388 00:14:39,829 --> 00:14:36,720 that 389 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:39,839 is so famous around the world 390 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:41,680 and so our government still won't admit 391 00:14:44,949 --> 00:14:43,680 that they exist or that they shot them 392 00:14:46,470 --> 00:14:44,959 down 393 00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:46,480 but it appears to me with all the 394 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:48,240 sightings that's happening and why 395 00:14:51,990 --> 00:14:51,360 the ranch of papers would have a section 396 00:14:54,550 --> 00:14:52,000 on 397 00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:54,560 the zeta in it makes me think that 398 00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:56,959 they're about to make contact again 399 00:15:00,230 --> 00:14:59,680 that that there were they want to bring 400 00:15:02,949 --> 00:15:00,240 us 401 00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:02,959 into the local system they've united a 402 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:04,160 bunch of worlds 403 00:15:07,829 --> 00:15:06,480 they haul different races and worlds 404 00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:07,839 around and 405 00:15:21,350 --> 00:15:18,949 the original uh publication 406 00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:21,360 it did it have any reference to to 407 00:15:25,350 --> 00:15:23,680 aliens to extraterrestrials or it is is 408 00:15:27,509 --> 00:15:25,360 it just the update that 409 00:15:30,069 --> 00:15:27,519 yes well the original book is talks 410 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:30,079 about about other life forms one of the 411 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:33,120 first paragraphs said that the the 412 00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:35,040 planets were not created in vain 413 00:15:39,030 --> 00:15:37,199 and they were all made to be inhabited 414 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:39,040 by intelligent creatures they could know 415 00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:39,680 god 416 00:15:46,629 --> 00:15:45,279 at some point so that's a cycle of 417 00:15:49,030 --> 00:15:46,639 eternity that we 418 00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:49,040 god first loved us then he creates us we 419 00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:50,240 go through this thing we 420 00:15:55,990 --> 00:15:53,199 learn to love him back and and it 421 00:15:57,829 --> 00:15:56,000 becomes a great cycle of eternity 422 00:15:59,670 --> 00:15:57,839 uh so the very first thing it does 423 00:16:00,870 --> 00:15:59,680 mention is that you know that we're not 424 00:16:02,310 --> 00:16:00,880 alone here 425 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:02,320 and then there's a one whole paper 426 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:04,800 that's on just inhabited worlds 427 00:16:08,629 --> 00:16:06,959 the different types of life the one 428 00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:08,639 brain the two brain and three brain 429 00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:10,000 species 430 00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:13,759 uh the one gland two gland and three 431 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:15,199 gland species 432 00:16:21,189 --> 00:16:18,320 it tells us that the pituitary gland 433 00:16:22,389 --> 00:16:21,199 is the center of spiritual receptivity 434 00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:22,399 and 435 00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:26,160 imagination it changes brain chemistry 436 00:16:29,509 --> 00:16:27,839 and we all know that the cannabinoids 437 00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:29,519 now are the controllers 438 00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:32,560 of the pituitary gland so you gain 439 00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:34,240 spiritual receptivity 440 00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:37,360 and imagination uh 441 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:39,839 through the cannabinoids so that's in 442 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:40,560 the book 443 00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:43,279 which is pretty darn interesting to me 444 00:16:47,269 --> 00:16:43,759 yeah 445 00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:47,279 uh 446 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:50,079 passion passage to me yeah dude i mean 447 00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:50,720 like i 448 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:53,040 i told you this book is is pretty legit 449 00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:53,920 so my guy 450 00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:55,759 i've been a criminal for 50 years you 451 00:16:59,189 --> 00:16:56,060 know 452 00:17:01,910 --> 00:16:59,199 [Laughter] 453 00:17:03,829 --> 00:17:01,920 in the eyes in the normal world you know 454 00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:03,839 when it works with their philosophers on 455 00:17:06,549 --> 00:17:05,600 our world we throw them in jail if they 456 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:06,559 don't have enough 457 00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:09,760 don't have a car right right 458 00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:12,640 one not a very plans and then there's 459 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:14,000 one whole paper 460 00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:16,079 since our world is so bad there's a 461 00:17:18,949 --> 00:17:17,679 whole there's a whole paper on a nearby 462 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:18,959 world in its government 463 00:17:22,870 --> 00:17:21,360 how they run things uh they ran their 464 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:22,880 whole country on ten percent 465 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:24,880 um it's just a i mean it would just blow 466 00:17:28,069 --> 00:17:26,160 your mind to read 467 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:28,079 them humans just don't even thought of 468 00:17:31,830 --> 00:17:29,440 things like that the way 469 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:31,840 and what they do is sensible they you 470 00:17:34,549 --> 00:17:33,120 know they're actually running their 471 00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:34,559 world and 472 00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:37,600 making it better so 473 00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:38,960 so there's one whole paper that just 474 00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:40,720 describes another world 475 00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:42,880 and then they mention in passing when 476 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:43,919 they mention 477 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:46,640 non-air breathing species that there's 478 00:17:51,029 --> 00:17:47,039 one 479 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:51,039 in close proximity to us 480 00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:53,520 and of course now we know that's proxima 481 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:54,240 centauri 482 00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:56,880 they're talking about the nearest planet 483 00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:58,400 their sun to us 484 00:18:01,590 --> 00:18:00,080 and the planet that orbits it's called 485 00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:01,600 molecular 486 00:18:05,830 --> 00:18:03,520 and you would find that if you remember 487 00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:05,840 the star wars bar scene 488 00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:08,799 apparently that's mocumbria there's a 489 00:18:12,110 --> 00:18:10,480 number of different species there from a 490 00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:12,120 number of different worlds 491 00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:15,360 because flying around and their study 492 00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:17,600 and it's a mining planet where they mine 493 00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:19,600 crystalia 494 00:18:23,110 --> 00:18:22,559 wow that's interesting so dude we can go 495 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:23,120 there 496 00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:25,360 visit the cantina and get some 497 00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:26,480 crystallia 498 00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:29,760 dude if we hadn't shot them down in 1947 499 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:31,760 we would probably be riding their craft 500 00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:33,360 to there now 501 00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:34,960 you know certain scientists would be 502 00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:36,799 allowed to go do you think 503 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:38,080 do you think we're going to be stupid 504 00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:39,840 enough to shoot them down again this 505 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:41,280 time 506 00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:44,320 well we're still pretty stupid i agree i 507 00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:46,320 agree i mean but on the other hand 508 00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:48,320 they they weren't expecting it the first 509 00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:50,880 time and we can't shoot them down again 510 00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:52,559 there's so many reports of them a 511 00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:54,640 cyclodiscus appearing over a missile 512 00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:55,440 site 513 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,200 or four days they can't even 514 00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:01,520 get it back up and i have a russian 515 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:03,120 friend and he says the same thing's 516 00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:05,120 happening in russia 517 00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:07,120 yeah they'll fly over so i think the 518 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:10,240 message is hey your nuclear weapons are 519 00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:17,669 beyond that they've shown us that yeah 520 00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:18,720 well 521 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:20,320 in the loose rebellion it actually 522 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:22,480 turned into a war in montgomery 523 00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:25,840 got invaded by satan's groups and 524 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:29,200 they tore up the addisons uh the cities 525 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:32,320 uh in them the zetas brought in a 526 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:33,760 million people from another 527 00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:35,919 galaxy to fight against them and they 528 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:37,600 converted their mining wet 529 00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:40,400 materials into weapons and and fought 530 00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:41,360 against them 531 00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:44,559 and repelled them from mocumbria 532 00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:46,720 so there's that there was actually a 533 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:48,480 star wars 534 00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:51,520 associated with elusive rebellion 535 00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:54,240 interesting i love that name lucifer 536 00:19:58,870 --> 00:19:55,039 bellian 537 00:20:01,750 --> 00:19:58,880 lucifer rebellion dude yeah rebellion 538 00:20:01,990 --> 00:20:01,760 oh god okay i shortened it my bad yeah 539 00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:02,000 it's 540 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:06,789 but now we know pretty much what 541 00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:10,240 happened it was some very evil things 542 00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:12,720 and this is where fake news come from 543 00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:14,000 satan took over a 544 00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:16,080 universe broadcast station and broadcast 545 00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:19,039 fake news to get people to join the 546 00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:21,600 no rebellion anybody that's broadcasting 547 00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:22,960 lies you know 548 00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:30,789 that like i have so many questions like 549 00:20:33,909 --> 00:20:31,200 i don't 550 00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:33,919 we're going to like kick off the 551 00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:35,679 internet 552 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:37,200 but here's the thing this is why i find 553 00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:39,600 it this is all true so 554 00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:42,240 it's in the rancho book i mean not 555 00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:43,600 making up anything 556 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:45,440 it's not like this was published in you 557 00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:47,200 know last year this was this has been 558 00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:49,600 around since you say the 1900s 559 00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:53,120 it was first published in 1955 the ranch 560 00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:54,080 book 561 00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:56,159 and it's still beyond our cosmology 562 00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:57,520 beyond our science 563 00:21:02,310 --> 00:21:00,240 it tells how electron forms yeah there's 564 00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:02,320 three forms of energy we've yet to even 565 00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:03,760 identify 566 00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:07,039 um and so i mean our scientists would do 567 00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:07,840 so much 568 00:21:11,110 --> 00:21:09,600 better if they would read the urantia 569 00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:11,120 book 570 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:14,240 probably 571 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:17,280 about eight years ago and i've i've i've 572 00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:20,000 looked into it i've dabbled in it here 573 00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:21,039 and there 574 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:23,039 i've definitely like looked looked 575 00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:24,640 through and i found it 576 00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:27,919 extremely fascinating the fact that like 577 00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:28,799 this book 578 00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:31,840 comes out you know in the 50s 579 00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:33,600 and it's got all this information all 580 00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:35,600 this science all this physics 581 00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:38,799 of stuff that we hadn't yet 582 00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:45,669 so interesting as an example um 583 00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,600 a friend of mine here in los alamos is a 584 00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,600 scientist to the lab but his hobby is he 585 00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:51,600 studies uh slime molds 586 00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:53,039 i don't know if you're familiar with 587 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:55,440 them but they're the transition 588 00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:57,120 from the plant to the animal on our 589 00:22:02,630 --> 00:21:58,960 planet 590 00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:02,640 ah and the rancher book written in 1934 591 00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:03,840 mentions that 592 00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:05,360 and science didn't discover it till the 593 00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:06,880 80s 594 00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:08,320 and there's still so many things in the 595 00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:11,280 ranch book that our science 596 00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:13,440 i probably know more of elementary 597 00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:15,039 physics than anybody on the planet but 598 00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:16,720 they won't listen to me because 599 00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:18,000 i don't have the right degree or 600 00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,760 something 601 00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:21,120 right you don't have that piece of paper 602 00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,880 that says i'm smart 603 00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:24,080 you gotta have that piece of paper with 604 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:25,760 that thing on it it's got to be really 605 00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:27,120 expensive 606 00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:29,039 well i got a couple degrees and realized 607 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:31,679 i didn't need the universities to learn 608 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:35,520 right the indoctrination is interesting 609 00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:38,720 yeah yeah i really believe that most of 610 00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:40,400 scientists get all their assumptions 611 00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:42,080 when they leave college and they never 612 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:45,280 re-examine them they just 613 00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:48,480 accept what they've been told and go on 614 00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:49,840 100 615 00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:52,159 agree with that man there's there's 616 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,760 something weird about that i don't know 617 00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,200 if it's human nature or just 618 00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:57,760 you know something that that has just 619 00:23:02,789 --> 00:22:59,840 happened naturally about 620 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:02,799 scientists or archaeology or physicists 621 00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:03,280 they just 622 00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:09,750 the ego is a terrible thing it makes 623 00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:13,039 everybody sick but the one who has it 624 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:16,480 right yeah that's that's 100 percent 625 00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:17,280 true 626 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,080 it definitely does it definitely does so 627 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,240 i i have a question uh uh 628 00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:24,240 mike is so you mentioned the zeta 629 00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:25,679 reticuli and i know that's like a 630 00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:27,919 multiple star system is there any other 631 00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:30,159 life form that that that's mentioned in 632 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:32,000 the book or that maybe you know of 633 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,840 with your contacts that is visiting 634 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:36,240 earth well 635 00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:39,600 um yes um 636 00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:41,440 when i was at the ufo museum there was a 637 00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:44,159 woman came in every day 638 00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:46,480 and the way it works at the ufo museum 639 00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:48,000 if you've seen something more than 640 00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,080 somebody else you're crazy 641 00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:52,320 so if you see one fly over and someone 642 00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,400 else sees it land they're crazy 643 00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,480 if you see it land and they see somebody 644 00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:58,640 get out they're crazy 645 00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:01,600 and so and so this lady had been on 646 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:04,480 their ship she was a study subject 647 00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,760 she had been on them over and over 648 00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,360 she had a call button that she could 649 00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:11,840 call him when she wanted to 650 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:14,240 and she was an army brat had a college 651 00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:15,120 degree 652 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:16,880 if you talk to her about anything else 653 00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:18,640 but ufos you 654 00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:20,240 just think she was normal brilliant 655 00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:23,120 person but she was hated at the ufo 656 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:24,320 museum 657 00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:26,320 and i had numerous conversations with 658 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:28,159 her and i believe they were real 659 00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:30,880 so the three creatures she knew was frog 660 00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:32,240 men she called him 661 00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:33,520 although later she learned he was a 662 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:35,279 lizard uh 663 00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:38,320 and this is in this is compatible with 664 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:41,919 what the rancho book says and then 665 00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:44,960 and then catwoman um 666 00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:47,120 was one of them and then the third one 667 00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:49,760 looked like us 668 00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:52,880 um and and almost every ufo story you 669 00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:54,000 know says that some of the 670 00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:57,440 aliens look like us so yeah and 671 00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:58,880 that's compatible with the teachings of 672 00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:01,120 the around the book too 673 00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:02,960 really so that's interesting i mean 674 00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,720 there's uh there's something that i've 675 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:06,559 been kind of wrapping my head around 676 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:09,360 lately but the idea has been talked 677 00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:10,720 about me and joe's talk 678 00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:12,080 have talked about it on the podcast 679 00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:13,760 before this idea that 680 00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:16,720 maybe there's a species of of actual 681 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,440 maybe they're not 682 00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:19,440 extraterrestrial maybe they've just been 683 00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,200 here all i think this has 684 00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:23,039 been in the news a lot with like george 685 00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:24,240 knapp talking about it 686 00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:25,520 but i think a lot of people have had 687 00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:27,679 this idea or or maybe 688 00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:31,200 notion that maybe we're we've never been 689 00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,200 by ourselves on this planet and they 690 00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:34,720 look just like us 691 00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:37,520 and maybe there's like a hub or you know 692 00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:38,559 the missing context 693 00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:42,640 i think doesn't doesn't support that 694 00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,240 um every planet is is 695 00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,799 once life starts and it becomes human it 696 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:50,880 has to go to perfection 697 00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:53,120 and so those are centered on each planet 698 00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,320 and so 699 00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:56,000 there could be some people visiting here 700 00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:57,279 that look like us but i don't think 701 00:26:01,830 --> 00:25:59,039 that's been the history of the planet 702 00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:01,840 and the the update says that those 703 00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:03,679 thetas have been 704 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:06,000 visiting us since the 12th century 705 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:07,360 they're actually responsible for the 706 00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:08,080 bermuda 707 00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:10,640 triangle they placed several sensors on 708 00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:11,600 our planet to 709 00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:14,480 to monitor our oceans and our and the 710 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,679 seafarers 711 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,200 two of them died out but one of them 712 00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:18,960 kept going in the bermuda triangle 713 00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:21,440 and they didn't intend for it to disrupt 714 00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:22,799 communications and 715 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:25,440 shipping but it it apparently did and 716 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:27,360 they say it's now dying out and we 717 00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:28,640 probably could never find it because 718 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:30,320 it's just tiny 719 00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:33,360 but powerful so that that's 720 00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:35,679 kind of interesting to me that that 721 00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:39,440 apparently solves that problem 722 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:42,960 yeah i love the bermuda triangle man 723 00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:45,760 it solves that problem but but but 724 00:26:48,580 --> 00:26:46,880 uncovers 725 00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:48,590 millions of questions 726 00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:51,520 [Laughter] 727 00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,320 that's what's great about about science 728 00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:56,159 and the reality we've been giving 729 00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:58,720 the ranch book shows the heavens are so 730 00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:00,559 vast and so complicated 731 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,520 that no more will ever get bored you'll 732 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:05,200 there'll always be something new to do 733 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:09,120 something new to learn experience yeah 734 00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:11,440 yeah as long as you keep that that 735 00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:13,600 interest and curiosity and 736 00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:15,919 and inspiration alive in your brain 737 00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:17,520 right like i think there's a lot of 738 00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:18,720 people that are sleeping 739 00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:20,399 you gotta smoke more weed and release 740 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:22,960 the pine needles 741 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:25,520 yeah you need them you need to wake up 742 00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:27,039 earth is a training ground 743 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,640 and it's a testing ground and you should 744 00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:30,720 do good on it you should 745 00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:38,070 so once you once you become human you 746 00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:39,279 were saying that 747 00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:42,480 the goal then is to reach this uh 748 00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,480 this form of perfection or 749 00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,960 or something like along those lines yeah 750 00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,559 everything we see in the night sky is 751 00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:52,559 called the evolutionary universes of 752 00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:54,240 space and time 753 00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:57,200 there was a a time when there was just 754 00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:59,360 god in the central universe before the 755 00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,600 this was all started but once it was 756 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:03,200 started the purpose was to 757 00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:04,960 to start with an animal and devolve a 758 00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:07,120 mortal and then through a succession of 759 00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,120 over a billion training worlds to bring 760 00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:11,279 them to perfection through time 761 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,799 when you go through all that and you 762 00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:14,720 finally reach the central universe the 763 00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:16,159 paradise aisle 764 00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:18,559 you'll as a perfected mortal of time and 765 00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:20,480 space you'll actually see god at that 766 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:21,200 point 767 00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:22,880 you'll stand before him and be able to 768 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:25,919 worship him in person 769 00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:29,440 and then you're basically trained 770 00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,399 to go out at that point you get to 771 00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:34,159 actually fly free 772 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:35,919 god will send you this universe or that 773 00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:37,200 universe 774 00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:38,960 and you'll have the ability to transport 775 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:40,480 yourself there to that 776 00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:42,399 you'll go there to solve some problem 777 00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:44,000 that's happening 778 00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:47,360 um you may be administration you may be 779 00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:49,039 philosophy you may be any number of 780 00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:50,640 things but 781 00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,240 they're just untold number of beings set 782 00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:56,799 to perfect everything and so a planet 783 00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:58,720 goes through this process where the 784 00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:01,840 the planet um 785 00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:04,799 evolves um and again everything is 786 00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:06,960 abnormal on our planet 787 00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,600 the races everything and the elusive 788 00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:11,120 rebellion 789 00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:13,600 the default of adam and eve on a normal 790 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:14,480 world right now 791 00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:17,600 we would already advance to to um to 792 00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:21,200 one race one language one world 793 00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:22,000 government 794 00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:24,159 and one religion which would have been 795 00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:25,120 brought to us by 796 00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:27,120 adam and eve and previous to that the 797 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:28,960 planetary prince 798 00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:32,080 so um we're we're probably 799 00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:34,240 2 000 years behind where we should be on 800 00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:36,080 a normal planet 801 00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:37,840 and the reason our planet got in trouble 802 00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:40,080 was because our planetary prince his 803 00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:42,159 name is calagastia but we call him the 804 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:43,120 devil 805 00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:46,240 he defaulted with lucifer and he's still 806 00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:50,240 on our planet he's got 873 bad midway 807 00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:51,919 angels that are all 808 00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,600 causing havoc around the world they're 809 00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:55,840 sitting on the shoulders of government 810 00:30:02,070 --> 00:29:58,960 leaders and and um big 811 00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:02,080 business and in the networks 812 00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:03,679 and they whisper in their ear and they 813 00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:05,120 can't make them do anything but if a 814 00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:07,279 person's inclined to it 815 00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:09,360 then they get that action done and we 816 00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,600 see that evil happening everywhere 817 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,600 they're trying to keep the status quo 818 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:14,880 the riches at the top 819 00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:18,080 the poor on the bottom who knows why 820 00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:20,080 but and why that would thrill them but 821 00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:22,240 that's kind of what's happening 822 00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,080 so it's going to be a long struggle for 823 00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:26,080 us they probably know the thousand years 824 00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,679 before our world enters what's called 825 00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:29,600 light and life 826 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:33,039 where where cooperation takes over from 827 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,080 competition 828 00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:36,480 where we work together to make things 829 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,919 better where we form the brotherhood of 830 00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:39,360 man where we care about 831 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:43,679 each other um more time is available for 832 00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:45,600 art and things that are valuable rather 833 00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:47,600 than just working 834 00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:49,520 the first stage of light in life you 835 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,120 only have to work three hours a day to 836 00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:53,600 meet your needs to society 837 00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:55,200 i mean just think about that that would 838 00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:56,720 be worth 839 00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:00,000 going to so it will come on our planet 840 00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:01,600 at some point but it's going to be a 841 00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,240 ways 842 00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:04,960 but the urantia book is an answer book 843 00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:05,519 and 844 00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:07,519 so if everybody would read the rancher 845 00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:09,760 book then we would have the answers to 846 00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:11,519 solve our earthly problems and make this 847 00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,320 a much better place 848 00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:16,159 and so i don't know if we said this but 849 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,080 urantia right it means 850 00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:20,240 the earth right that's the name that was 851 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:21,279 given 852 00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:24,480 yeah and um in the language of the 853 00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:25,600 universe of jesus 854 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:28,320 it's called nebadon is the universe the 855 00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:29,440 language is called sat 856 00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:34,159 vula and the tia always means promise of 857 00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:37,120 and a urine is a valuable blue gem more 858 00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,720 valuable than diamonds 859 00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:40,640 and there's also on the edge of paradise 860 00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:41,919 there's a blue 861 00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:45,440 a gem mountain called mount urine and so 862 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:49,519 uranthia means blue gem of promise 863 00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,760 we are in the nearest thousand planets 864 00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:53,679 apparently we have the best environment 865 00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:56,399 for raising life 866 00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:59,760 it's just near perfect cure for making 867 00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,080 life 868 00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,080 and so it's a blue gem of promise 869 00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:06,720 although that promise got way laid 870 00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:09,679 somewhat i like but it's not over like 871 00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:11,279 that 872 00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:15,760 so where is i guess like in these 873 00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:18,320 where is as as like you know we were 874 00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:19,760 saying the earth is kind of like a 875 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:22,559 this training ground and then you move 876 00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:23,440 on to 877 00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:26,480 a another you know section of this 878 00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:29,519 where is where is earth in the line 879 00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:32,720 of of reaching the top are we at the 880 00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:33,840 very beginning 881 00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:36,480 or you know our universe you know yeah 882 00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:41,909 go ahead is it there like isn't there 883 00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:42,399 like 884 00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:45,679 seven i think seven separate 885 00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:49,440 universes and then one like i guess 886 00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:51,679 overseeing universe i guess is how you 887 00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:53,760 would explain it i'm not sure but is 888 00:32:57,029 --> 00:32:54,480 that yeah 889 00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:57,039 the seven super universes super 890 00:33:04,310 --> 00:32:58,480 universes 891 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:04,320 so the the organization of things is a 892 00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:07,120 thousand planets makes a local system 893 00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,080 a hundred systems makes a constellation 894 00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:12,240 a hundred constellations makes a local 895 00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:13,519 universe 896 00:33:19,660 --> 00:33:16,559 and um i think it's a thousand 897 00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:19,670 uh make a super universe 898 00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:21,039 [Music] 899 00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:24,080 and so jesus is a creator of what's 900 00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,760 considered a fairly new universe we are 901 00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:29,679 there's only one universe further away 902 00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:31,360 from god than we are we're on the 903 00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:32,399 outskirts of 904 00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:35,440 everything um 905 00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:37,600 even within the universe of jesus were 906 00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:39,440 there's only one system further out than 907 00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:40,480 us 908 00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,840 so physically we're the furthest 909 00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:43,760 separated from the central universe of 910 00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:44,720 any 911 00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:49,360 way to go 912 00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:51,440 well all your transport is done by 913 00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:52,640 angels and 914 00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:56,080 actually where you end up is um 915 00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:58,799 when you're when you well let me explain 916 00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:59,840 the whole process 917 00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:01,200 they've really given us a lot of 918 00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:03,120 information in 919 00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,840 every human brain is a piece of 920 00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:06,559 crystalia 921 00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:09,359 it's it's the absolute substance of of 922 00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:10,879 paradise 923 00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:15,599 called absolutum 924 00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:17,839 but when it's time conditioned in space 925 00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:19,599 it becomes 926 00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:21,919 it exists in 10 dimensions it's a source 927 00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:22,960 of all light 928 00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:26,000 matter and gravity 929 00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:27,839 and in your brain is a piece of 930 00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:30,000 crystallia that's storing 931 00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,960 in that memory of your life history 932 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:34,399 you've heard of people saying they see 933 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:36,000 their life flash before their eyes 934 00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,520 whenever they die 935 00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:39,280 well that's the god within them reading 936 00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:40,879 their life thing to go write it in the 937 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:41,599 life of 938 00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:44,320 the book of life so what happens when 939 00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:45,839 you die then 940 00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:47,919 is your angel then picks up this 941 00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:50,560 crystalia which is your soul trust 942 00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,760 and transports it to heaven in the first 943 00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:55,440 heaven as it's called is the mansion 944 00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,240 worlds 945 00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:58,400 i've calculated probably about 50 light 946 00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:03,109 angels travel at three times the speed 947 00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:04,560 of light 948 00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:07,599 so that means that you you'd wake up 949 00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,599 normally 50 years later although you 950 00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:11,680 wouldn't experience anything 951 00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:13,760 so the mansion world so all of the 952 00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:16,240 worlds of the government are artificial 953 00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:19,280 worlds so the the 954 00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:21,200 main mansion world is a hundred times 955 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,560 larger than 956 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:25,040 than earth it has the satellites around 957 00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:25,680 it 958 00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:28,240 that are ten times larger than earth and 959 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:30,079 then around each of those is a satellite 960 00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,680 about the size of earth 961 00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:33,599 so around one of those satellites of the 962 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:36,000 satellites is the first mansion world 963 00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,359 where you'll be you'll wake up 964 00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:42,079 and the god within will reunite with the 965 00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,160 soul trust brought by the angel 966 00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:46,320 and under the influence of a number of 967 00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:47,200 beings the 968 00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:49,040 life carriers the arch angels of the 969 00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:50,560 resurrection things 970 00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:52,720 you're given a new body and your brain 971 00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,599 is is 972 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:55,680 brought back you remember everything of 973 00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,640 importance 974 00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:58,480 remember all of your relationships 975 00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:00,160 everything that's happened 976 00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:03,440 that's yours through eternity 977 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:07,680 um so so that's how you 978 00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:09,280 arrive in the first mansion world and 979 00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:10,960 then if you've 980 00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:12,560 already learned the lessons of mansion 981 00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:15,440 world one you spend ten days there 982 00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,320 and rest and meeting your people that 983 00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:20,720 you you know that you've known before 984 00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:22,160 and then if you've already passed those 985 00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:23,920 tests then you move on to mansion world 986 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,800 two 987 00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:26,640 there's seven mansion worlds you land on 988 00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:27,839 whichever one you 989 00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:35,829 the this is the idea of reincarnation 990 00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:41,270 exponential level uh yeah well 991 00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,560 reincarnation is 992 00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:44,720 really saying the same person comes back 993 00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,520 again as to something else 994 00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:50,160 um oh so it is different it's it's much 995 00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,599 different well you're the same person 996 00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:53,200 but you've never had another you've had 997 00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:55,680 you've had one life there's no such 998 00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:56,320 thing as 999 00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:58,640 multiple lives although there is one 1000 00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,440 exception to that rule 1001 00:37:03,610 --> 00:37:03,280 everything in heaven has an exception to 1002 00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:03,620 the rule 1003 00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:06,240 [Laughter] 1004 00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:07,839 so then you proceed through those and 1005 00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:09,520 once you've passed all those tests then 1006 00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:10,880 you move from the system up to the 1007 00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,320 constellation 1008 00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:14,079 there's another a couple of hundred 1009 00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:15,680 training worlds there and then you move 1010 00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:16,640 to this 1011 00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,440 to the capital of the of jesus universe 1012 00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:21,040 it's called southington 1013 00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,640 and you learn the lessons there and at 1014 00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:23,920 that point you've become you've been 1015 00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:25,520 through 270 1016 00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:28,480 body changes each one slightly more fit 1017 00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:30,400 spiritual and less physical 1018 00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:32,160 and then when you leave the work the 1019 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,599 universe of jesus you're 1020 00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:35,520 a baby spirit you no longer have a 1021 00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:37,040 material 1022 00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:40,160 being so it's a transition to 1023 00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:43,040 a few thousand years these these light 1024 00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:45,119 beings that that are often depicted 1025 00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,200 uh some people call them angels some 1026 00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:49,200 people call them extraterrestrials or 1027 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:49,680 alter 1028 00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:52,480 ultra dimensionals could this maybe you 1029 00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,119 know 1030 00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,880 us humans we just like to come up with 1031 00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:56,320 names for stuff like 1032 00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:58,400 doesn't mean that that's an angel it 1033 00:38:02,390 --> 00:37:59,920 could be all three of those 1034 00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:02,400 those options well mostly you don't see 1035 00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:03,599 an angel 1036 00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:05,680 although the night before my son died 1037 00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:07,359 what's called a brilliant evening star 1038 00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,640 visited me when i was in 1039 00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:11,119 socorro and it's just a ball of light 1040 00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:12,320 about 1041 00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:14,320 five inches in diameter that just i was 1042 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:16,720 sitting in my tent watching the stars 1043 00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:18,240 it just came out of the heavens and a 1044 00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:20,480 great ark came right through my tent 1045 00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,440 wall 1046 00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:23,200 gave me time to set up and look at it 1047 00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,280 face to face and then went off the other 1048 00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:28,079 way and i knew i was being offered mercy 1049 00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,839 about something the next morning my son 1050 00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:31,440 died 1051 00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:34,160 and so um so normally they don't make 1052 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:35,680 themselves 1053 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,760 they're not normally visible but you 1054 00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:39,680 know there are special circumstances 1055 00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:42,320 but there's so many there was so much 1056 00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:43,839 default in our world that there's a 1057 00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:46,960 bunch of evil spirits that can do things 1058 00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:49,040 and these bad these midway angels i 1059 00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,640 talked about are closer to human than 1060 00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:52,160 any other angels and they're the ones 1061 00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:53,119 that can most 1062 00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,320 manipulate physical reality to make 1063 00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:58,160 things appear to be miracles or stuff 1064 00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:01,440 like that and so they do apparently fool 1065 00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:02,400 a lot of people 1066 00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:04,000 and there's apparently a lot of spirits 1067 00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:06,400 lose that 1068 00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:08,160 that they can't take over a mind but 1069 00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:09,839 they can sure suggest things to you they 1070 00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:10,240 can 1071 00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:13,839 sit on your shoulder and talk to you um 1072 00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:14,720 so 1073 00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:21,119 as like what is he like like a a watcher 1074 00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:22,400 or an overseer 1075 00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:25,359 of this particular constellation well 1076 00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:26,560 he's what's called a 1077 00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:30,160 creator son of god there's an order of 1078 00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:32,240 it's called the descending orders of of 1079 00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:33,280 god 1080 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,520 then he decided he wanted to company i 1081 00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:39,760 guess as a way to say it and he made 1082 00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,480 the holy spirit and the eternal son 1083 00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:44,640 jesus is not the eternal son 1084 00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,960 but the eternal son and god made jesus 1085 00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:48,079 he's one of 1086 00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:51,119 over 700 000 creator sons 1087 00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:54,240 each one creating a universe the 1088 00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:57,599 universe adrian now will have 700 000 1089 00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:01,359 universes wow before we start the next 1090 00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:02,720 universe age 1091 00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,960 so jesus is is responsible for the 1092 00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:06,160 actual creation 1093 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:08,880 of of the entire universe of 10 million 1094 00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:10,720 inhabited worlds 1095 00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,880 the first inspector came to this region 1096 00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:14,160 of space 1097 00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,599 um 987 billion years ago 1098 00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:19,760 to see if it was suitable for making a 1099 00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:20,960 universe 1100 00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:23,680 he reported back that it was an 87 1101 00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:24,079 billion 1102 00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:27,359 years later a permit was issued if you 1103 00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:35,829 yeah talk about bureaucracy man yeah 1104 00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:36,560 well it's 1105 00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:39,920 heaven is full of it oh man 1106 00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:43,280 so you said uh an agent or actually like 1107 00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:43,760 the 1108 00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:51,839 you're what you're unaware 1109 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:54,880 know the content of the heavens it's 1110 00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:55,760 just 1111 00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:58,319 there's beings that that do everything 1112 00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,280 as beings that 1113 00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:01,440 through their being control energy they 1114 00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:03,200 materialize it they do all kinds of 1115 00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:04,319 things 1116 00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,200 power directors they can make energy 1117 00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:09,599 flow through them and 1118 00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:12,560 they just think about it do you think uh 1119 00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:14,480 so you you mentioned like a scout like 1120 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:16,240 visiting different parts of the universe 1121 00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:18,319 or maybe a new universe do you think you 1122 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:19,200 did you uh 1123 00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:22,240 pit or did you know about uh amumua 1124 00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:25,359 do you know about that the uh the large 1125 00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:28,640 uh i guess celestial some people think 1126 00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:30,160 it was just a large rock 1127 00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:33,440 that came scarily close to earth it like 1128 00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:36,560 well that's probably there's some it's 1129 00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,760 that's true our solar system was formed 1130 00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:41,760 in a way that only represents about one 1131 00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:44,000 or two percent of the solar systems 1132 00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:45,599 most of the time the solar system forms 1133 00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,119 because there's a lot of material around 1134 00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:49,599 the sun and it accretes into the planets 1135 00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:52,000 but ours was a lone sun just traveling 1136 00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:53,040 its own path 1137 00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:55,920 six billion years ago and what happened 1138 00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:56,960 is um 1139 00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,319 i don't know if i remember the name of 1140 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:00,079 it it will come to you in 1141 00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:03,440 a minute but there was the angola system 1142 00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,560 this large dark body with a number of 1143 00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,079 planets around it 1144 00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,319 came close to us at that point our sun 1145 00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:12,319 was what's called a pulsar 1146 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,880 it's which we know that now because of 1147 00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:16,720 the daily i mean the monthly rhythms of 1148 00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:17,119 the 1149 00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,800 so it was a pulsar and it was extending 1150 00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:24,480 and retracting and extending and 1151 00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:25,520 retracting 1152 00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,440 and one of these extensions matched up 1153 00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:29,359 just about perfectly with when the 1154 00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:33,359 large coal body was nearest to it 1155 00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:36,640 and so that reaction 1156 00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:39,040 caused a bunch of material to be pulled 1157 00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,119 out of the sun 1158 00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:43,440 enough to make all the planets and and 1159 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:45,359 the asteroids the asteroids came out of 1160 00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:46,960 the back end and the planets came out of 1161 00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:48,079 the front end 1162 00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:51,200 it was shaped kind of like like this so 1163 00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,880 the big planets formed and now the big 1164 00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:54,720 material and the little planets 1165 00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:57,359 formed on both ends but interesting 1166 00:43:02,790 --> 00:42:59,599 enough the proof of all of this 1167 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:02,800 is that we extracted three of those 1168 00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:03,520 planets 1169 00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,880 from that system so everything else in 1170 00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:08,240 our solar system is 1171 00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,520 is five and a half billion years old but 1172 00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:13,520 those particular planets if we would go 1173 00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:15,119 to them we would find they was much 1174 00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:15,920 older 1175 00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:18,240 one of them is called makimaki um it's 1176 00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:20,079 the latest three little planetoids that 1177 00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,839 were discovered 1178 00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,280 yeah there was a new one that that's the 1179 00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:25,200 shape like this because it 1180 00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:28,160 moves it spins so fast that the material 1181 00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:28,400 has 1182 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:31,920 another system is they're out of the 1183 00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:32,800 plane of the 1184 00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,920 orbit everything that came out he was in 1185 00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:37,520 the same plane but these are in a 1186 00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:38,400 different plane 1187 00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:40,560 because they was affected by another 1188 00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:42,400 gravitational system 1189 00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:44,000 and so if we would send a probe and 1190 00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:45,680 measure the age of it it would prove the 1191 00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:46,480 original book 1192 00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:48,160 prove the formation and our poor 1193 00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,760 scientists can't figure it out 1194 00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,440 they can't figure out why jupiter still 1195 00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:53,599 has a liquid core 1196 00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:56,800 they thought it would be made up of just 1197 00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,200 coal things that came together but 1198 00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:01,359 rancho book says that it was that 1199 00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:03,200 jupiter and saturn both were small suns 1200 00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:04,720 for a period of time because it was made 1201 00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:04,960 of 1202 00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:08,480 hot material from the sun and and that 1203 00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:09,920 they're they've just never cooled that's 1204 00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:12,400 why they don't have a solid interior 1205 00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:15,520 and our scientists can't figure that out 1206 00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,190 yeah so many things like that 1207 00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:25,359 it makes me think about the there's a 1208 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:26,560 lot of 1209 00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:30,000 ideas that saturn was at one point a sun 1210 00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:31,839 you know like that's supposed to be well 1211 00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:34,079 that's just true it wasn't 1212 00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:36,800 yeah yeah like the signifier of like the 1213 00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:37,200 like 1214 00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:48,470 those things are all messed up so 1215 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:50,720 according to 1216 00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:55,440 like that's like totally 1217 00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:03,750 or or or is it like 1218 00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:04,800 it sounds like maybe you have like a 1219 00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,800 source that's like no no that's that's 1220 00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:08,319 totally 1221 00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:09,680 i don't know i just love the ideas well 1222 00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:12,079 the problem is is that humans 1223 00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:14,319 just like a they like a good story they 1224 00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:15,839 like a myth 1225 00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:18,240 and so everything that even may have 1226 00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,839 some reality to it gets assigned to 1227 00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:21,359 something else 1228 00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:22,800 the problem with the bible all through 1229 00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:24,560 time is that god has revealed himself to 1230 00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:26,160 people but they always took it and mixed 1231 00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:28,000 it with what they had before 1232 00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,359 even the judeo-christian religion is 1233 00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,599 jesus came to give a whole brand new 1234 00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:34,800 vision of god 1235 00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,200 but what we do we mixed it with the jews 1236 00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:39,119 who didn't accept jesus 1237 00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:42,160 and so now we so instead of accepting 1238 00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,000 the new religion he taught us we 1239 00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:46,480 took an old one and mixed it with it 1240 00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,200 yeah 1241 00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:48,880 and made the church which was never the 1242 00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:50,560 teachings of jesus 1243 00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:53,040 he thought that god lives within you you 1244 00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,440 find going god by going inward 1245 00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:57,359 and once you find god you realize he's 1246 00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:59,520 your father a loving father 1247 00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:00,960 and you realize he's the loving father 1248 00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,720 of your neighbor and so you love your 1249 00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,960 neighbor because he's a brother 1250 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:07,040 and that's the way that's what jesus 1251 00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:09,520 thought he never taught the church 1252 00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:11,680 yeah i don't i don't remember anything 1253 00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,880 about like hey 1254 00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:15,680 let's like like make people pay money to 1255 00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:17,680 come to a building that we made 1256 00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,839 if anything he destroyed temples yeah 1257 00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:21,359 right well yeah well 1258 00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:23,280 paul changed the message he thought it 1259 00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,280 would be more acceptable to the jews 1260 00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,880 but he made it less acceptable to the 1261 00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:28,640 rest of the world 1262 00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:31,280 and so peter kept the message up longer 1263 00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:32,560 and actually the disciples 1264 00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:34,960 of john the baptist taught the true 1265 00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:37,280 message longer than anybody 1266 00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:38,960 but it faded out with the teaching of 1267 00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:41,440 paul it became the church and then 1268 00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:43,760 we all know now there's 500 variations 1269 00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:44,720 of 1270 00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:48,640 rancho book says they are the biggest 1271 00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,760 threat to the coming brotherhood of man 1272 00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:54,240 because they installation decimalize the 1273 00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:55,359 truth 1274 00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,680 living thing it must be everyday growing 1275 00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:00,960 within you and you 1276 00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:02,800 must show by your life that you live the 1277 00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:04,160 truth 1278 00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:06,079 and so anytime you write it down and it 1279 00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:09,760 becomes stasis it's considered evil 1280 00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:11,839 if god's gonna pass everything that we 1281 00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,359 see then he's gotta 1282 00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,680 you've gotta progress you've gotta you 1283 00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:17,280 can't stay where you are you kind of 1284 00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:18,640 keep progressing 1285 00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,839 right right yeah that notion itself 1286 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,000 reflects the nature of the universe and 1287 00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:26,400 the cosmos itself right like 1288 00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:28,880 nothing's staying still everything's in 1289 00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:29,520 motion 1290 00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,880 you know everything is in there 1291 00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:34,800 that's what i can't understand our 1292 00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:36,079 scientists think that 1293 00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,760 entropy is increasing that everything is 1294 00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:39,440 moving the disorder 1295 00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,800 and that's one of the things that i 1296 00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:42,559 argued with them long ago let's look at 1297 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:43,200 the sky 1298 00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,920 everything's in order and it just keeps 1299 00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:47,680 getting more ordered 1300 00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:49,280 and that's what the rancho book says 1301 00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:52,000 it's it's all about bringing order to 1302 00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:53,440 everything 1303 00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,680 oh dude i love this man this is great 1304 00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:59,520 it's so fascinating it's definitely 1305 00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:00,800 pretty interesting 1306 00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:03,040 yeah it's it's a it's a it's a very 1307 00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:04,079 fresh take 1308 00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:07,200 like especially like with with modern 1309 00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:08,160 society 1310 00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:10,720 and it's it's uh you know it it's 1311 00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:12,800 definitely starting to shy away from 1312 00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:14,079 like 1313 00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,240 spiritual but i'm not religious 1314 00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:22,480 right and this this your ranch a book 1315 00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:23,520 kind of 1316 00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,559 uh as i would read through it 1317 00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:28,720 or you know listen to stuff and watch 1318 00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:29,839 videos and stuff i 1319 00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,079 i would i would always think to myself 1320 00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:34,160 this is a very palatable way 1321 00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:37,440 to accept god right because most people 1322 00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:39,599 are like oh i don't even talk about god 1323 00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,480 like that's just 1324 00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,640 it's silly it's nonsense but then 1325 00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:44,640 whenever you actually start to put some 1326 00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,200 some physics and science to it it starts 1327 00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:48,800 to explain all this stuff you're like 1328 00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:49,440 wow 1329 00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,040 that actually makes sense you know 1330 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:53,440 people are still basing the idea of god 1331 00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:56,640 off of this old ancient text 1332 00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:59,280 and book which may have you know a few 1333 00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:00,559 truths to it 1334 00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:03,680 but this this new version was very 1335 00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:05,680 it was very digestible it didn't give 1336 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,119 you that cringy feeling 1337 00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:10,079 you know well it answers your questions 1338 00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:10,880 instead of 1339 00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:13,920 making more questions yes 1340 00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:15,839 the entire bible is covered in there it 1341 00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:17,839 tells you what all was true what was not 1342 00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:18,720 true 1343 00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:21,839 you know how it evolved all the time the 1344 00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:23,839 different myths and stuff 1345 00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:26,880 the myth of the virgin mary the original 1346 00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:28,000 verse that a 1347 00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:29,839 maiden shall bear a son not a virgin 1348 00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,520 sober son 1349 00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:33,520 joseph and mary were married 13 months 1350 00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:36,079 when jesus was born 1351 00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,720 it was not a virgin birth yeah 1352 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:40,720 definitely not 1353 00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,880 she was playing hard to get dude she was 1354 00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,480 like you know what i'm gonna make you 1355 00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:46,000 wait we're gonna make this relationship 1356 00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:47,839 a slow burn 1357 00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:49,359 actually she was the aggressor in the 1358 00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:50,880 relationship 1359 00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:52,720 joseph came up to her father's house to 1360 00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:54,400 do some work one day and 1361 00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,240 she bought him a glass of water at lunch 1362 00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,559 and that was the beginning of their 1363 00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,640 their love for each other that's how it 1364 00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:02,160 happens that's what happened to me in 1365 00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:03,200 high school 1366 00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:06,079 water just it really really sets me 1367 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:07,599 especially if you're in the desert 1368 00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,370 sure it was cherry kool-aid 1369 00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:11,200 [Laughter] 1370 00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,800 well i've been married four times i 1371 00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:14,319 don't think i've got the right water or 1372 00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:21,109 oh my gosh yeah man that uh 1373 00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:23,119 your rancho books super super 1374 00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:24,800 interesting yeah man that means you're 1375 00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:26,240 so knowledgeable about it man i can pick 1376 00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:26,640 your 1377 00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:29,280 brain uh for hours about it can you can 1378 00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:30,720 you confirm this for me 1379 00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,800 i it may just be something that was made 1380 00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:34,720 up but i i heard that one of the 1381 00:50:38,549 --> 00:50:37,599 one of the uh i guess like the original 1382 00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:38,559 copy maybe 1383 00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:41,520 was left in a locker or something with 1384 00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:42,640 some gold 1385 00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:44,880 is that true or is that a myth no i 1386 00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,079 think that's a myth 1387 00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:48,240 it's a myth okay yeah the origin the 1388 00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,000 foundation the rancho foundation is 1389 00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,559 still in existence they're the holders 1390 00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:54,400 of the original printing plates and 1391 00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:55,760 original printing plates are 1392 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:59,200 in a safety deposit box and so what's 1393 00:51:03,030 --> 00:50:59,760 happened 1394 00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:03,040 is um after 21 years they 1395 00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:05,359 failed to renew the copyright on it and 1396 00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:06,960 another group form called the 1397 00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,920 the the um the fellowship the rancho 1398 00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:11,760 fellowship 1399 00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:13,599 and they decided they wanted to print it 1400 00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:15,280 and the foundation sued them 1401 00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,559 but um it was ruled public domain 1402 00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:20,640 so anybody can print it or reproduce it 1403 00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:21,599 in any way 1404 00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:24,880 without having to ask anybody 1405 00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:28,480 so so it um it's printed by two 1406 00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:29,119 different 1407 00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:32,800 groups right now interesting interesting 1408 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,510 and there's actually um about a page and 1409 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:42,880 a half of corrections that have been 1410 00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:45,280 made since 1955. 1411 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:48,319 they're all human corrections of 1412 00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,000 of punctuation that kind of thing 1413 00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:54,319 there's no substantial matter of fact i 1414 00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,559 can't find it oh 1415 00:52:03,589 --> 00:51:58,559 i can't find a mistake in the book i've 1416 00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:06,390 so this probably can't see it but at the 1417 00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:08,800 last there's a oh yeah appendix one 1418 00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:11,760 and you see there's okay part of the 1419 00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:14,079 list 1420 00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:17,119 and in the second page 1421 00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:20,640 oh wow and it's one of them is 1422 00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:23,359 they use they change like a comma to or 1423 00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:25,280 they they spell one word a word yeah 1424 00:52:28,510 --> 00:52:26,640 here's one 1425 00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:28,520 where hesitate was spelled 1426 00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:29,680 h-e-s-i-t-a-t-e 1427 00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:37,990 and so that's the only corrections that 1428 00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:39,520 have been made and then 1429 00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:43,680 if you're really interested the um 1430 00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:46,160 this one just this is the first update 1431 00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:47,520 that appeared and it's no longer 1432 00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:48,800 available in print 1433 00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:52,480 it's still available but it tells how 1434 00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:55,280 the process was formed how they did it 1435 00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,720 how they contact people um 1436 00:53:02,069 --> 00:53:00,240 have there was how many people was 1437 00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:02,079 involved the time frame 1438 00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:04,240 um and the angels did have a little bit 1439 00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:06,160 of work in the end there they 1440 00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:08,160 they took the original notes and stuff 1441 00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:09,760 and took them away and they had to make 1442 00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,520 a few corrections 1443 00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:13,040 that the earth people probably didn't 1444 00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:19,109 to you know to help us understand where 1445 00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:21,839 the book come from and alleviate um 1446 00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:25,119 you know concerns about it yeah can you 1447 00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:27,200 imagine if they made like a corrections 1448 00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:29,359 book on like the current bible 1449 00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:31,040 like the corrections could be like a 1450 00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:33,040 whole another 1451 00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:35,119 book it'd be bigger than the bible 1452 00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:36,960 itself 1453 00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:39,599 oh we gotta make a lot of corrections so 1454 00:53:44,309 --> 00:53:41,680 much this is gonna take us at least 100 1455 00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,319 years it would either be like 1456 00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:46,079 12 books of corrections or just like hey 1457 00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:47,839 just start over and it would be like 1458 00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:48,400 this 1459 00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,839 cut all out all the 1460 00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:53,680 the king james bull i don't know i'm 1461 00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:55,520 just i'm not trying to be a heretic here 1462 00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,599 but you know cut out all the nonsense 1463 00:54:02,390 --> 00:53:59,440 yeah well the rancher book was written 1464 00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:02,400 in english so there's no translation 1465 00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:05,200 problem interesting yeah that was one of 1466 00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:06,960 the questions in the chat people uh 1467 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:10,240 i guess lewis was uh curious about 1468 00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:12,880 maybe where the sumerians might fit in 1469 00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,480 is there does it does the book maybe say 1470 00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:15,920 anything about that 1471 00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:18,640 yes um i recommend the two printers that 1472 00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:19,920 you get this one the one i 1473 00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:21,599 one i have because it has a subject 1474 00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:23,760 index in it 1475 00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:26,720 you can literally go look up sumerians 1476 00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:27,839 in it and 1477 00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:30,800 and it'll it covers that subject dude i 1478 00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:32,319 even know they knew about the sumerians 1479 00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:33,520 in 1950s like 1480 00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,640 what we didn't 1481 00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:38,079 we didn't and we still don't know about 1482 00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:40,400 adam and eve and a whole bunch of things 1483 00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,160 we don't know about the planetary prince 1484 00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:44,480 500 000 years ago the planetary prince 1485 00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,200 arrived 1486 00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:47,440 and for 300 000 years everything went 1487 00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:48,640 well 1488 00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:52,640 um there was some remarkable things 1489 00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:55,200 and then adam and eve right about 38 000 1490 00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:56,240 years ago 1491 00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:58,000 and at that time there was what's called 1492 00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:59,359 a fandor 1493 00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:01,520 which is a large bird related to the 1494 00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:02,480 ostrich 1495 00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:04,720 that flew and could fly a person 50 or 1496 00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:06,319 100 miles in a day 1497 00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:09,839 there were fandor handlers 1498 00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:11,920 at that time and adam and eve used the 1499 00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:14,720 fan door to examine the garden of eden 1500 00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:17,839 when he loved them and 1501 00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,960 there's transport birds if you wanna if 1502 00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:22,960 you wanna just go 200 miles an hour you 1503 00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:23,440 can 1504 00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,760 take a transport bird instead of the 1505 00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:27,440 cyclodiscus i guess or whatever else 1506 00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:29,040 they use 1507 00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:32,160 my man my one of my favorite movies is 1508 00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:32,960 avatar 1509 00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:35,359 and the best scene is when he's like 1510 00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:37,119 taming that like 1511 00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:41,040 pterodactyl dragon type thing oh my god 1512 00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:42,880 like that's 1513 00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:45,440 my ultimate dream scenario is that you 1514 00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:46,160 have it's 1515 00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,000 it's like having a horse but you're 1516 00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:49,920 you're flying you're flying 1517 00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:52,000 i had a personality to cross between a 1518 00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,870 they love to work with things 1519 00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:00,240 so you'll get to ride them on the 1520 00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:02,240 constellation i know it tells that 1521 00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:03,200 they've got 1522 00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,880 carrier birds is one of the methods of 1523 00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:06,720 transportation so you'll get to 1524 00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:07,920 experience that 1525 00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:09,920 oh my gosh i was going to ask is this is 1526 00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:11,520 this already happened or does time not 1527 00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:12,960 exist and we just get popped into 1528 00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,720 different timelines and i can still fly 1529 00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:16,640 this thing 1530 00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:19,200 yeah yeah it's already happened on our 1531 00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:21,280 planet but 1532 00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:23,599 so in the next in the next life the next 1533 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,720 life you'll be able to 1534 00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:26,559 experience that all right on the 1535 00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:29,839 universe of jesus you're guaranteed to 1536 00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:30,720 saturate 1537 00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,720 any things that you had on earth that 1538 00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:34,240 you didn't get done that you wanted to 1539 00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:35,040 do 1540 00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:38,559 it's art or whatever you're guaranteed a 1541 00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,000 thousand years of art 1542 00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:42,319 or a thousand years of music or whatever 1543 00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:44,160 it is that you are 1544 00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:46,960 so you'll get to do all those things 1545 00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:47,520 also 1546 00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:50,559 the other update is you are blues and 1547 00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:52,480 they tell us how the angel of blues 1548 00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:55,119 brought us the blues 1549 00:57:02,710 --> 00:56:58,960 there's a man called tiger wolf 1550 00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:02,720 who's the who's essentially born on a 1551 00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:04,720 slave ship coming over 1552 00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:06,400 gypsies took him over he had the worst 1553 00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:07,920 life you can imagine but there was an 1554 00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:09,520 angel of blues with him he invented the 1555 00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:11,200 steel guitar the capo 1556 00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:13,760 the drum set the blues progression the 1557 00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:15,200 blues notes 1558 00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,799 everything that we have in the blues 1559 00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:18,240 came from him 1560 00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:20,640 all the great artists of the day um have 1561 00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:27,030 they gave it to us to unite us to give 1562 00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:28,960 us something that brought us together 1563 00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:32,160 that's awesome look at woodstock 1564 00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:35,839 yeah oh yeah good example dude so 1565 00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:37,520 i've always thought i'd always thought 1566 00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,359 it was because robert johnson discovered 1567 00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:41,280 the pick of destiny 1568 00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:47,190 there's a lot of people in hattiesburg 1569 00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:49,119 uh that are that are going to be angry 1570 00:57:52,829 --> 00:57:50,319 right yeah 1571 00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:52,839 the home of the home of the blues right 1572 00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:54,240 yeah 1573 00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:57,680 disappointed 1574 00:58:01,030 --> 00:58:00,000 but it's even deeper than that because 1575 00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:01,040 if you read 1576 00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:04,799 into everything music is apparently the 1577 00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:07,599 language of heaven and it's the way that 1578 00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:09,599 essentially god in the central universe 1579 00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:11,359 communicates with beings 1580 00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,640 with a um 1581 00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:16,400 well the communication circuit is all 1582 00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:17,839 done apparently through music and when 1583 00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:19,359 you get to heaven 1584 00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:21,760 it's all music you there's know 1585 00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:23,119 everything is done 1586 00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:25,839 and so blues is one-seventh of it 1587 00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:26,799 there's seven 1588 00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:29,200 types of music apparently that make up 1589 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:30,640 what is needed to 1590 00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:33,520 to express an idea to get all the 1591 00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:34,960 feelings all the emotions 1592 00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:37,040 everything that goes with it and that 1593 00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:38,960 idea can be completed for these seven 1594 00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:41,040 aspects of music one of them is the 1595 00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:42,480 blues which i assume 1596 00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:45,440 is tells us about emotions because 1597 00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:46,079 that's 1598 00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,359 pretty much what it's about and so when 1599 00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:51,520 you get to heaven you'll sing in harmony 1600 00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:54,880 apparently it won't be no more language 1601 00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:57,440 so so music is far more important than 1602 00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:58,720 maybe we give it credit for 1603 00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:01,280 on our planet yeah dude that's so like 1604 00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:02,960 in close encounters of the third kind 1605 00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:04,480 when they play them musics 1606 00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:07,920 and like i did see that movie 1607 00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:09,839 yeah that's about the last one i've seen 1608 00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:11,040 but 1609 00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:13,040 it's pretty interesting that i'm i'm 1610 00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:15,440 just making my own correlation here but 1611 00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:18,640 using music as a form of communication 1612 00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:19,839 with a higher 1613 00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:23,119 uh consciousness or a 1614 00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,400 higher yeah yeah 1615 00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:28,720 definitely definitely because even like 1616 00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:29,839 the bible right 1617 00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,079 it even says uh in the beginning in the 1618 00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:34,559 beginning was the word and the word was 1619 00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:37,680 the lord right so the word itself is a 1620 00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:38,640 is a 1621 00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:40,480 a sound it's a frequency it's a 1622 00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:41,839 vibration and 1623 00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:44,640 that's what spoke everything into to 1624 00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:46,160 existence is this this 1625 00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:50,000 this noise this vibration 1626 00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:52,240 dude there's got to be something to that 1627 00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:54,079 man 1628 01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:58,240 frequency vibration everything's moving 1629 01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,240 there's more space in between atoms and 1630 01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:02,400 molecules don john bovee says what about 1631 01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:03,359 limb biscuit though 1632 01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:04,960 i know i saw that i was about to put 1633 01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:06,559 that up dude 1634 01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:09,520 joe's a big limp biscuit he was probably 1635 01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:11,200 part of the the luciferian 1636 01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:14,319 uh regime yeah for sure uh 1637 01:00:18,549 --> 01:00:17,119 okay mike so we're at our like hour mark 1638 01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:18,559 and we're trying something new guys if 1639 01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:18,960 uh 1640 01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:20,400 if if you guys are fans of the show 1641 01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:22,240 we're we're gonna do like a little break 1642 01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,760 and i'm thinking maybe like a two minute 1643 01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:25,280 thing i'm gonna zoom in on nibbler's 1644 01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:26,480 face for a second 1645 01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:28,400 uh just in case anybody has to pee or 1646 01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:30,079 like you get a refill on their beer or 1647 01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:30,720 whatever 1648 01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:32,559 and then uh yeah we'll just hop back 1649 01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:33,839 into it the next thing i want to ask you 1650 01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:34,720 mike is about 1651 01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:37,200 you the your the meteor that you found 1652 01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:38,000 uh and and 1653 01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:40,319 and we're good on time right is that all 1654 01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:42,000 right i'll work required so i'll go as 1655 01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:43,520 long as you want 1656 01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:46,480 oh awesome and you realize all of this 1657 01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:46,799 is 1658 01:00:50,870 --> 01:00:49,920 science fiction from the 50s i would 1659 01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:50,880 read about this from 1660 01:00:54,549 --> 01:00:52,799 you know in a science fiction book that 1661 01:00:58,390 --> 01:00:54,559 you could talk to somebody and see them 1662 01:01:01,510 --> 01:00:58,400 and all this would be happening and so 1663 01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:01,520 yeah yeah the angels of progress are 1664 01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:03,680 also sitting on people's shoulders 1665 01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:05,200 and they're guiding our scientists and 1666 01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:06,799 stuff and the 1667 01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:10,240 so that we learn faster so 1668 01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:12,480 we're not alone we're lit we're living 1669 01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:14,240 in science fiction right now i mean 1670 01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:16,720 uh 10 years ago or 70 years ago would 1671 01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:18,079 you ever think that the government would 1672 01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:19,200 come out and say that that 1673 01:01:22,829 --> 01:01:21,599 aliens are real and you are ufos are 1674 01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:22,839 real 1675 01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:24,559 well even saying right they're saying 1676 01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:31,190 that's the new branding man i sent a 1677 01:01:37,270 --> 01:01:33,440 copy of this book to the pentagon 1678 01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:39,430 did they they at least sign it or no 1679 01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:40,799 they didn't i said 1680 01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:44,000 that you know i said the ufo 1681 01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:46,240 section and stuff here's your answers 1682 01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,760 and they sent it back so we could not 1683 01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:49,440 find this 1684 01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:51,119 undeliverable or something like that oh 1685 01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:52,480 my gosh 1686 01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:53,920 yeah it's like what are they supposed to 1687 01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:55,440 supposed to find like this is supposed 1688 01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:56,000 to be 1689 01:02:02,290 --> 01:01:59,359 your answer yeah they're like we work at 1690 01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:02,300 the pentagon we don't read stuff 1691 01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:04,720 [Laughter] 1692 01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:07,520 we just kind of gloss over and and stamp 1693 01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:12,549 everybody's there's no courage people 1694 01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:14,240 are afraid to make a decision to say 1695 01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:14,720 anything 1696 01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:16,720 the whole report that came out said well 1697 01:02:21,029 --> 01:02:18,079 there's another 1698 01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:21,039 category well we already knew that right 1699 01:02:24,069 --> 01:02:22,160 right 1700 01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:24,079 covered things from the year 2000 what 1701 01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:25,680 about all the way back to 47 1702 01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:28,079 and all the different things we've seen 1703 01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:29,200 you know oh i know 1704 01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:31,200 there was a tricyclist that went over 1705 01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:33,760 over america all the southern states 1706 01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:35,839 several years ago and hundreds of people 1707 01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:38,079 saw it and apparently big enough to land 1708 01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:40,319 a 747 on the back of it 1709 01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:44,880 the night sky went dark when it went by 1710 01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:46,480 now we're talking about the maybe the 1711 01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:49,599 phoenix lights 1712 01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:51,599 then the military shut off some flares 1713 01:02:57,190 --> 01:02:54,480 just and say oh that's what it was 1714 01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:57,200 yeah that was recently from california 1715 01:03:03,270 --> 01:02:58,960 by the ufo people 1716 01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:05,029 i recently found out that that's what 1717 01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:06,640 the military did was shoot uh 1718 01:03:10,150 --> 01:03:08,960 flares in the sky after after the craft 1719 01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:10,160 had 1720 01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:11,680 fled the scene that that was new 1721 01:03:14,789 --> 01:03:13,599 information to me so that's it yeah 1722 01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:14,799 that's the way it worked 1723 01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,240 yeah i'll be right back guys they just 1724 01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:19,039 camouflage it yeah 1725 01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:22,720 wow dude yeah it's so crazy 1726 01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:25,760 they're like you see this thing fly over 1727 01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:27,599 and then the military's like what do we 1728 01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:28,880 do 1729 01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:34,960 well they blame the other one on a 1730 01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:37,200 weather balloon yeah which actually 1731 01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:38,160 wasn't invented till 1732 01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:43,670 yeah they're like man we're paying these 1733 01:03:46,950 --> 01:03:44,480 people 1734 01:03:49,670 --> 01:03:46,960 it's crazy five months at the roswell 1735 01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:49,680 ufo museum i've studied all the material 1736 01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:52,480 thoughts that's cool and i've actually 1737 01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:53,440 um 1738 01:03:56,829 --> 01:03:55,200 i met everybody that was still alive 1739 01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:56,839 that was involved in an original 1740 01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:58,000 incident 1741 01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:01,280 no way yeah yeah i think it was three 1742 01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:02,880 others i can't remember 1743 01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:05,119 all the names but i talked to all of 1744 01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:06,160 them 1745 01:04:11,510 --> 01:04:09,599 what was their uh i mean what were their 1746 01:04:13,029 --> 01:04:11,520 stories like i bet that was pretty 1747 01:04:14,870 --> 01:04:13,039 well it's the ones that are pretty 1748 01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:14,880 public you know yeah it's 1749 01:04:18,470 --> 01:04:17,440 all pretty much the same yeah and then 1750 01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,480 um 1751 01:04:21,510 --> 01:04:20,160 one interesting thing is one day this 1752 01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:21,520 guy came to my 1753 01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:23,920 booth where i was showing my meteor 1754 01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:25,200 right and 1755 01:04:30,069 --> 01:04:28,319 he um kind of him hawed around a little 1756 01:04:32,789 --> 01:04:30,079 bit and then he began talking to me and 1757 01:04:34,309 --> 01:04:32,799 we had quite a long conversation 1758 01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:34,319 he had never believed in any of this 1759 01:04:38,789 --> 01:04:36,799 he'd never been to the ufo museum before 1760 01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:38,799 but his friend was the son of the guy 1761 01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:41,280 who found it he had seen the cigar box 1762 01:04:45,829 --> 01:04:42,799 full of the 1763 01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:45,839 of the parts he um he 1764 01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:47,599 his friend told him the men in black had 1765 01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:49,920 come and got all of that 1766 01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:52,240 but he still didn't believe it but then 1767 01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:54,400 he was out on his ranch near 1768 01:05:01,029 --> 01:04:58,000 roswell um a few days before he saw me 1769 01:05:02,230 --> 01:05:01,039 and and he saw a cycle of discus he and 1770 01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:02,240 his son and his father 1771 01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:04,240 all watched a cycle of discus fly over 1772 01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:05,440 their ranch 1773 01:05:09,190 --> 01:05:08,079 so he came in and told me his story 1774 01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:09,200 about knowing the sun 1775 01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:11,440 and everything and it all matched up 1776 01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:12,960 with what 1777 01:05:16,710 --> 01:05:14,880 what they were saying but he said the 1778 01:05:17,990 --> 01:05:16,720 site where everybody goes is the wrong 1779 01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:18,000 place that 1780 01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:19,520 the site where it landed is different 1781 01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:21,280 than what people know about or what has 1782 01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:23,839 been considered the right site now 1783 01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:25,520 it might be interesting to go meet him 1784 01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:27,039 again and see 1785 01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:30,400 get him to take us to the real site yeah 1786 01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:32,079 that would be pretty awesome 1787 01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:33,680 that would be pretty awe i would i would 1788 01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:35,440 love to go out there dude i remember his 1789 01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:37,280 last name was walker 1790 01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:41,520 walter walker walker 1791 01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:43,119 yeah i would love to go out there like 1792 01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:44,960 with somebody who actually knows 1793 01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:47,039 what they're doing and not just somebody 1794 01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:48,640 who is like oh yeah i've 1795 01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:50,240 been out there before and like did you 1796 01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:51,599 just drive you out to the desert and 1797 01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:52,640 they're like well yeah well they have 1798 01:05:55,029 --> 01:05:54,319 plus tours you know they go out to a 1799 01:05:56,789 --> 01:05:55,039 spot 1800 01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:56,799 uh-huh apparently it's not the right 1801 01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:58,400 spot right right 1802 01:06:01,510 --> 01:06:01,280 i've heard that too i've heard that too 1803 01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:01,520 yeah 1804 01:06:11,990 --> 01:06:08,960 here in los 1805 01:06:13,550 --> 01:06:12,000 alamos and they were playing 1806 01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:13,560 and i told them that i was gandalf 1807 01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:16,000 [Laughter] 1808 01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:18,720 you shall not pass yeah they was playing 1809 01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:19,680 lord of the rings they 1810 01:06:23,510 --> 01:06:22,000 all had their characters assigned oh 1811 01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:23,520 that's awesome 1812 01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:27,119 that's a badass oh yeah man so we were 1813 01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:28,880 you all talking about like living in los 1814 01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:30,960 alamos in the desert oh he was talking 1815 01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:32,960 he was talking about how 1816 01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:36,000 uh he he uh he spent a lot of time at 1817 01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:38,079 the ufo museum in roswell 1818 01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:41,440 and how he actually met all of the uh 1819 01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:44,160 uh remaining people that were still 1820 01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:44,799 alive 1821 01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:47,839 actually involved with the incident and 1822 01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:50,240 then i remember town people too 1823 01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:52,240 one friend i had i used to ride my bike 1824 01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:54,400 at night after it was closed 1825 01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:56,480 in the parks and stuff and i met this 1826 01:07:03,029 --> 01:06:59,039 one guy we became good friends 1827 01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:03,039 and he was just um eight years old in 47 1828 01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,880 but he says he remembers it distinctly 1829 01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:06,480 because they were going on a picnic and 1830 01:07:09,670 --> 01:07:07,760 they weren't allowed to leave he said 1831 01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:09,680 there was so many army people there 1832 01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:11,119 that they couldn't even leave the town 1833 01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:13,599 they had to go to the park after picnic 1834 01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:15,119 well i mean this is just a guy out of 1835 01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:16,880 the blue you know that 1836 01:07:20,950 --> 01:07:18,720 happened to live in roswell at that time 1837 01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:20,960 and remembered the whole thing and 1838 01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:24,079 how did he dispute his story 1839 01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:27,359 yeah seriously what's always got me is 1840 01:07:30,710 --> 01:07:28,000 like 1841 01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:30,720 it's such a perfect town for a ufo to 1842 01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:31,200 crash 1843 01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:34,400 like yeah had it been any other 1844 01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:37,839 like highly populated area possibly 1845 01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:40,480 never have known about it like have you 1846 01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:42,559 heard of the ufo museum 1847 01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:45,599 no i i would love to go though be sick 1848 01:07:50,230 --> 01:07:48,720 well if you go take me well dude we'll 1849 01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:50,240 come pick you up oh dude 1850 01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:51,680 yeah we'll definitely come pick you up 1851 01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:53,359 hopefully we'll have our our ufo 1852 01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:55,119 response vehicle by that time 1853 01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:57,599 oh yeah yeah yeah which is our logo it's 1854 01:08:01,349 --> 01:07:58,880 a 64 impala 1855 01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,359 and we always figured hey we'll get one 1856 01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:03,200 of those and see if we can make it hover 1857 01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:05,039 and we want to cruise around the space 1858 01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:07,359 yeah well i remember when the 64s came 1859 01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:10,640 out yeah i bet yeah 1860 01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:13,119 one of my favorite cars oh it was cool i 1861 01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:14,480 used to have a 70 1862 01:08:19,349 --> 01:08:17,600 and i loved it i loved it it was awesome 1863 01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:19,359 i was always a steady guy but i always 1864 01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:21,600 had the old ones that were worn out 1865 01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:24,960 yup yup yeah man yeah if we ever go out 1866 01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:25,679 to 1867 01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:34,000 yeah man that would be dope so 1868 01:08:37,990 --> 01:08:36,080 speaking of the desert and things 1869 01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:38,000 falling from the sky 1870 01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:41,120 mike tell us a little bit about uh about 1871 01:08:45,189 --> 01:08:41,520 this 1872 01:08:47,349 --> 01:08:45,199 call it an artifact is it a 1873 01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:47,359 geological meaning you're right it's a 1874 01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:50,080 meteorite from mars i'm sure 1875 01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:51,839 i think you'll be convinced when i tell 1876 01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:53,520 you the whole story 1877 01:08:57,749 --> 01:08:56,640 to me this story starts so when i was a 1878 01:09:00,229 --> 01:08:57,759 child 1879 01:09:01,990 --> 01:09:00,239 and my mother sent me down one day and 1880 01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:02,000 he said she said son you're a christian 1881 01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:03,440 and here's what christians do they read 1882 01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:04,799 their bible every night 1883 01:09:07,590 --> 01:09:06,239 and they pray to god for those things 1884 01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:07,600 that are important and those things they 1885 01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:08,640 want 1886 01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:11,279 well as a child i had no clue what was 1887 01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:12,239 important 1888 01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,400 but i knew what i wanted ever since i'd 1889 01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:16,480 heard that there was stars and planets 1890 01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:17,920 out there i wanted some 1891 01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:20,400 i wanted to go there but as a child i 1892 01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,839 can drive how i was going to get there 1893 01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:23,040 so i thought well if this is all 1894 01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:24,960 powerful god i'll just have him send me 1895 01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:27,679 some so every night in my childhood i 1896 01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,719 prayed to god 1897 01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,120 please send me a piece of space that was 1898 01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:33,600 the way i made my prayer 1899 01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:36,880 and so in 1971 i'm working on my great 1900 01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:37,920 aunts ranch 1901 01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:41,520 near canadian texas almost into oklahoma 1902 01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:43,920 and it was the winter time and and you 1903 01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,159 feed the cattle you go around 1904 01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:48,480 the same route every day that way the 1905 01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:50,239 cattle learn about when to come in you 1906 01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:52,080 know to be fed 1907 01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,000 and she being a good rancher wouldn't 1908 01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:56,080 feed until every cow was in in every 1909 01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:57,120 pasture 1910 01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:59,040 so on this particular day we left what's 1911 01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:00,480 called the cidna 1912 01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:03,840 and we turned into them 1913 01:10:10,229 --> 01:10:07,440 into the north meadow and and then in a 1914 01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:10,239 few minutes about 100 yards road turned 1915 01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:11,120 north 1916 01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:14,400 about a half a mile ahead there was a 1917 01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:15,760 rock on the ground 1918 01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:18,800 that had never been there the ranch is 1919 01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:20,640 made of what's called sand hills there's 1920 01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:23,440 really no rocks on it it's all just 1921 01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:27,040 intermittent streams and and 1922 01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,239 you know it blows away really easily so 1923 01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:32,560 both of us saw it immediately and shakes 1924 01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,800 claimed what's that on my wrench 1925 01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:36,480 and i said well if it's a rock from 1926 01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:38,640 space it's a meteorite 1927 01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,480 so we drove over to it and um 1928 01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:44,159 and since i had prayed for one all my 1929 01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:45,520 life i just 1930 01:10:49,189 --> 01:10:47,600 was you know assumed it was a meteorite 1931 01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:49,199 right from the beginning 1932 01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:51,120 and i knew it was kind of important so i 1933 01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:53,440 just stood there and looked at the scene 1934 01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:56,800 and the ground was crusty there hadn't 1935 01:11:01,110 --> 01:10:58,159 been rain and the 1936 01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:01,120 sandy soil was crusty so about 18 inches 1937 01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:02,400 to the north there was a little 1938 01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:04,000 indentation and then the meteorite was 1939 01:11:06,550 --> 01:11:04,880 sitting there 1940 01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:06,560 it looked like to me that bounced one 1941 01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:08,880 time and so 1942 01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:11,679 she began honking about that point um 1943 01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:13,360 she was about doing work not 1944 01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:16,880 looking at meteorites so i brought it 1945 01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:17,920 into the truck and 1946 01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:20,640 said can i have this and she said sure 1947 01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:22,000 because from her viewpoint it was just 1948 01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:23,679 covering the grass up and she 1949 01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:26,400 fed cattle so grass was what she wanted 1950 01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:28,080 not rocks 1951 01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:30,960 so at that point i kept it for quite 1952 01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:32,800 some time 1953 01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:34,560 i was afraid somebody would take it from 1954 01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:36,640 me if i had told anybody about it so i 1955 01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:37,199 just 1956 01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:39,760 kept it in my closet and when i'd have 1957 01:11:42,630 --> 01:11:40,960 tough times in life 1958 01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:42,640 i'd get it out to remember that god 1959 01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:44,400 answers prayers and that miracles still 1960 01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:45,840 happen 1961 01:11:50,630 --> 01:11:48,880 on this planet and then the pathfinder 1962 01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:50,640 landed on mars 1963 01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:52,719 and i'd always thought it was from mars 1964 01:11:57,189 --> 01:11:55,199 because mars is a small planet outside 1965 01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:57,199 the orbit of earth 1966 01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:58,960 it has little atmosphere so it'd be 1967 01:12:01,270 --> 01:12:00,560 fairly easy to knock something off of 1968 01:12:03,669 --> 01:12:01,280 mars 1969 01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,679 if it got into space it would tend to 1970 01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:05,520 come inward towards the sun 1971 01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:07,280 so it's conceivable that something from 1972 01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:09,120 mars would make it to earth 1973 01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:12,400 yeah so at that point i began actually 1974 01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:14,800 looking at it myself under a microscope 1975 01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:15,520 and 1976 01:12:19,590 --> 01:12:17,280 the first thing i saw was what looked 1977 01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:19,600 like a piece of a tree with a filament 1978 01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:20,960 on it 1979 01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:23,520 obviously something from that was alive 1980 01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:25,120 at one point 1981 01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:26,880 and the more i looked the more things i 1982 01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:29,199 found i found probably 15 or 20 1983 01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:31,440 different species of things and there 1984 01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:34,560 there's plants and insects there's 1985 01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:37,520 flying insect blind flying insects 1986 01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:39,280 spiders with a movable head which 1987 01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:41,600 doesn't exist on earth 1988 01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:44,000 there's something looks like a stink bug 1989 01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:45,360 there's um 1990 01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:46,960 shrimp-like creatures there's a number 1991 01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:48,800 of those in it there's a little clown 1992 01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:50,640 clamshell 1993 01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:52,960 well who knows there's a little clam 1994 01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:54,239 shell that's 1995 01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:56,239 fused in the outside edge of the 1996 01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:58,640 meteorite when it came to the earth 1997 01:13:02,070 --> 01:13:00,320 and generated the heat of the fusion 1998 01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:02,080 crust it fused that little 1999 01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:05,440 piece of it's got some sand in it and 2000 01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:07,360 just like it was preserved perfectly on 2001 01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:09,679 the outside of the meteorite 2002 01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:12,560 and so um i began trying to contact 2003 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:14,880 scientists about it 2004 01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:19,760 and boy i had nothing but trouble 2005 01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:22,800 i finally got a meeting with david kring 2006 01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:24,640 at the university at arizona state 2007 01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:26,320 university 2008 01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:27,760 and we had about an hour and a half 2009 01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:29,679 meeting over it i brought a few samples 2010 01:13:34,229 --> 01:13:32,000 but didn't bring the meteorite 2011 01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:34,239 at the end of it i thought everything 2012 01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:35,360 went well we 2013 01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:37,679 seem to agree with all my by that time 2014 01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:39,199 i'd done a bunch of tests i had 2015 01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:43,360 potassium argon dating and i had the 2016 01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:45,600 the minerals and what you know the all 2017 01:13:50,070 --> 01:13:47,040 the things that were in it 2018 01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:50,080 had been tested so i told him i said you 2019 01:13:53,669 --> 01:13:51,760 know 2020 01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,679 we're gonna the the rules for finding 2021 01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:56,000 meteorites need to be rewritten 2022 01:13:59,750 --> 01:13:57,840 because this is a newly formed meteorite 2023 01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:59,760 from a planetary body and that's totally 2024 01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:01,440 different than the old meteorites that 2025 01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:02,560 are left over from the 2026 01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:04,960 formation of this solar system they're 2027 01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:05,840 very heavy 2028 01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:09,760 dense full of dense of heavy metals and 2029 01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:10,320 that 2030 01:14:15,189 --> 01:14:12,640 kind of thing my meteorite weighs 22 2031 01:14:18,790 --> 01:14:15,199 pounds and it's bigger than a basketball 2032 01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:18,800 so it's very lightweight for you know 2033 01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:20,400 and then the evidence shows that it flew 2034 01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:21,600 through the air with a single 2035 01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:23,520 orientation kind of like a lifting body 2036 01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:24,000 that 2037 01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:26,719 nasa tested but it's got much more 2038 01:14:31,030 --> 01:14:28,400 melting on the bottom 2039 01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:31,040 but um i said so we need the rules are 2040 01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:32,560 going to have to be rewritten and as i 2041 01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:33,840 walked out the door he handed me a 2042 01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:35,280 little book 2043 01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:37,199 and it turns out he wrote the rules for 2044 01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:42,470 okay 2045 01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:45,440 so the plot thickens so from that moment 2046 01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:45,840 on 2047 01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:48,880 david crean michael zielinski and alan 2048 01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:50,560 tremen were the three top meteoritic 2049 01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:51,760 people in the world 2050 01:14:56,310 --> 01:14:55,520 and they blackballed me time after time 2051 01:14:59,350 --> 01:14:56,320 i would 2052 01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:59,360 try to get over well probably 20 times a 2053 01:15:02,070 --> 01:15:01,199 scientist would agree to study my media 2054 01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:02,080 right 2055 01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:04,000 and never did i claim anything all i 2056 01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:05,360 wanted to do is study it 2057 01:15:09,110 --> 01:15:07,920 make their own decisions and 20 times 2058 01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:09,120 when they found out it's me they 2059 01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:10,400 cancelled it 2060 01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:13,520 some kept their samples some didn't 2061 01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:15,840 so after a period of time i wrote my 2062 01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:18,640 congressman and my two senators in texas 2063 01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:20,719 and told them about the problem and they 2064 01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:22,239 they 2065 01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:24,719 went to nasa and had the nasa oversight 2066 01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:26,080 committee of congress 2067 01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:29,120 demand that nasa study my meteorite so 2068 01:15:36,790 --> 01:15:33,280 that we could so if that well not good 2069 01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:38,709 so over a period of three or four three 2070 01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:39,840 months or so 2071 01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:42,640 they gave me a they gave me a contact 2072 01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:44,239 person i think his name was alan 2073 01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:45,840 sharpton but i can't 2074 01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:48,560 i'd have to look up and find it for sure 2075 01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:50,080 but um 2076 01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:52,640 so i made arrangements to make a meeting 2077 01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:53,199 in 2078 01:15:58,310 --> 01:15:56,400 houston at nasa to look at it and i told 2079 01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:58,320 them that i wanted 10 at least 10 people 2080 01:16:01,510 --> 01:15:59,760 there and i wanted people not just 2081 01:16:04,149 --> 01:16:01,520 meteoritic people but i want 2082 01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:04,159 life experts and geologists and 2083 01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:05,920 different life scientists because i mean 2084 01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:07,199 if i show them 2085 01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:08,800 a creature that doesn't exist on earth 2086 01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:10,560 then you have to give credibility that 2087 01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:12,480 it came from somewhere else 2088 01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:14,400 and i didn't want the meteoritic people 2089 01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:17,199 just to say oh no it's not a meteorite 2090 01:16:20,229 --> 01:16:18,800 which is basically the way it works you 2091 01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:20,239 take a rock to them and they declare it 2092 01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:21,679 a meteorite or not 2093 01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:24,719 if they say not then you're out of luck 2094 01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:28,320 so two days before this meeting is to 2095 01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:30,239 occur 2096 01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:33,199 alan sharpton gets transferred to alaska 2097 01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:34,000 i haven't heard from 2098 01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:37,920 him since well alan treman 2099 01:16:41,189 --> 01:16:39,760 contacted me and said oh i'll give you a 2100 01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:41,199 fair hearing 2101 01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,800 so me and my son drive to houston 2102 01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:47,040 when i get there there's not the 10 2103 01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:48,880 people they're just alan creman 2104 01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:50,719 he said well there's some nasa rule that 2105 01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:52,320 prohibits 2106 01:16:55,990 --> 01:16:54,000 you from from more than one person 2107 01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:56,000 looking at this meteorite 2108 01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:58,320 and you know that's a lie yeah there's 2109 01:17:02,229 --> 01:17:00,080 no rule there 2110 01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:02,239 so luckily i recorded the whole thing 2111 01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:03,760 and i posted it on my 2112 01:17:08,470 --> 01:17:06,800 new youtube page gravionic garden 2113 01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:08,480 the whole meeting is on there if you 2114 01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:10,560 want to see it 2115 01:17:13,990 --> 01:17:13,120 yeah and so i thought everything went 2116 01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:14,000 well 2117 01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:16,719 um he went over all my evidence we went 2118 01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:18,239 up to his lab and looked through his 2119 01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:20,000 microscope and some thin sections that 2120 01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:21,280 had been made 2121 01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:23,520 i said i need chemistry here here here 2122 01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:24,560 and here 2123 01:17:28,470 --> 01:17:27,120 he said i'll be on that machine tomorrow 2124 01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:28,480 what would you think 2125 01:17:33,110 --> 01:17:30,000 you think tomorrow he's going to do that 2126 01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:33,120 chemistry no he wrote a report to 2127 01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:36,400 the senate to nasa didn't list any of my 2128 01:17:40,870 --> 01:17:38,480 evidence and his only conclusion was in 2129 01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:40,880 his opinion it wasn't a meteorite 2130 01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:42,640 well at that point even my senators 2131 01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:45,360 wouldn't answer my letters anymore 2132 01:17:51,669 --> 01:17:49,760 um and so wow what is that 2133 01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:51,679 so i i have a question so what's the 2134 01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:53,360 size what was the size 2135 01:17:56,870 --> 01:17:55,040 when you when you found this meteorite 2136 01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:56,880 and and you said something about 2137 01:18:00,070 --> 01:17:58,480 like a basketball maybe yeah it's a 2138 01:18:01,669 --> 01:18:00,080 little bit bigger than a basketball it's 2139 01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:01,679 round 2140 01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:05,040 um also uh i there's two separate videos 2141 01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:06,320 on my 2142 01:18:12,149 --> 01:18:10,239 youtube channel that i made concerning 2143 01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:12,159 the evidence of martian origin of the 2144 01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:14,159 frass meteorite it landed on the frass 2145 01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:15,360 ranch so i called it 2146 01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:18,080 the frass meteorite so if you want to 2147 01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:19,840 see you can see the meteorites you can 2148 01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:22,400 see all my evidence laid out there that 2149 01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:24,320 that i prepared and make up your own 2150 01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:26,880 mind but again all i've ever asked is 2151 01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:29,280 for them to study it i've never 2152 01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,600 i've made my own decisions about what i 2153 01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:33,360 think it is but i've never tried to put 2154 01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:34,960 anything over anybody i've never 2155 01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:37,520 hidden anything from them i still have 2156 01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:38,320 everything 2157 01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:40,400 still available for study except the 2158 01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:42,320 blind flying insect 2159 01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:44,400 the scientist sent it they said it never 2160 01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:50,709 oh of course it didn't i'm like the the 2161 01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:53,040 spider the spider with the rotating head 2162 01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:54,159 that that's that's 2163 01:18:58,229 --> 01:18:55,679 probably the most creepy thing i can 2164 01:18:59,750 --> 01:18:58,239 think of you know yeah 2165 01:19:01,990 --> 01:18:59,760 if you've got a minute i can show you a 2166 01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:02,000 picture of it well yeah yeah i'd love to 2167 01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:03,040 see that 2168 01:19:09,669 --> 01:19:06,640 bring it out show and tell oh holy crap 2169 01:19:11,590 --> 01:19:09,679 hey remember on that unnamed uh 2170 01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:11,600 program with the unnamed guy there he 2171 01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:14,320 talks about the spiders that are on mars 2172 01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:21,270 okay 2173 01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:24,070 these are the negatives from a photo 2174 01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:25,360 micrograph 2175 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,470 let's see 2176 01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:37,189 whoa yeah you can see it and you can see 2177 01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:38,880 its head is movable it's turned to the 2178 01:19:44,229 --> 01:19:41,040 side 2179 01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:44,239 the head is right full screen 2180 01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:46,320 the head's okay can you point out the 2181 01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:47,440 head again 2182 01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:50,480 just one more time right here yeah 2183 01:19:59,350 --> 01:19:54,159 what the heck whoa 2184 01:20:02,310 --> 01:19:59,360 that's that's so i still have this 2185 01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:02,320 and on earth all spiders have a fused 2186 01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:03,679 head in thorax 2187 01:20:07,270 --> 01:20:06,159 there is no spider on the earth that has 2188 01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:07,280 a separate head 2189 01:20:11,189 --> 01:20:09,120 and you can you can see the body parts 2190 01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:11,199 here i can anyway 2191 01:20:15,590 --> 01:20:12,800 if i shine the light behind it i don't 2192 01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:18,709 oh dude so i'm 2193 01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:21,280 looking for i could definitely make out 2194 01:20:24,790 --> 01:20:22,400 a body and some 2195 01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:24,800 legs and some legs yeah they're kind of 2196 01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:25,840 like 2197 01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:29,280 of uh 2198 01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:31,679 plates or something it almost looks like 2199 01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:33,280 a like a crab to me i guess crabs and 2200 01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:34,560 spiders yeah 2201 01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:38,080 crabs and spiders are related yeah 2202 01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:41,600 yeah dude and it could have been a sea 2203 01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:44,159 creature i don't know you know 2204 01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:46,400 yeah definitely yeah dude that's super 2205 01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:51,750 thanks for sharing that with me hey and 2206 01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:52,960 also yeah i'll i'll 2207 01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:54,639 put the uh the links to those those 2208 01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:56,800 youtube channel uh youtube links on the 2209 01:21:01,510 --> 01:20:58,639 uh on this video when i 2210 01:21:01,990 --> 01:21:01,520 i'm not so with this meteorite man the 2211 01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:02,000 uh 2212 01:21:06,310 --> 01:21:04,960 i'm assuming you were saying that as it 2213 01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:06,320 entered the atmosphere 2214 01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:09,040 it got hot but it's only on one side so 2215 01:21:14,229 --> 01:21:11,040 this thing didn't rotate but we do 2216 01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:14,239 know that from the the 2217 01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:17,040 the the bottom of it that i guess came 2218 01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:19,040 through the atmosphere we do know that 2219 01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:22,800 it it came from space because 2220 01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:24,800 that's the only way that you know right 2221 01:21:28,790 --> 01:21:26,159 yeah the fusion crust is on 2222 01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:28,800 all sides but it's just the thickest on 2223 01:21:33,110 --> 01:21:29,920 the bottom 2224 01:21:35,270 --> 01:21:33,120 but the rock is very vesicular it's made 2225 01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:35,280 of a whole bunch of holes with very thin 2226 01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:36,320 walls 2227 01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:38,159 you can break almost any wall in the 2228 01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:40,159 meteorite with your thumbnail 2229 01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:42,000 it's that thin and that delicate i think 2230 01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:43,679 if i took it over my head and threw it 2231 01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:46,239 against concrete it would just shatter 2232 01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:48,400 do you think that it was a bigger like a 2233 01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:49,360 bigger piece 2234 01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:51,520 when it hit the ground initially and 2235 01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:52,560 then probably 2236 01:21:56,709 --> 01:21:54,880 um i think what happened is because it's 2237 01:21:57,510 --> 01:21:56,719 made that way it's made essentially like 2238 01:22:01,350 --> 01:21:57,520 a space 2239 01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:01,360 shuttle heat tile it's thin walls and 2240 01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:03,600 vesicles so it dissipates heat very 2241 01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:04,639 rapidly 2242 01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:06,880 i heated it to 800 degrees one day and 2243 01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:10,000 was able to touch it in about 10 seconds 2244 01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:12,080 whoa that's how well it goes dissipates 2245 01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:13,120 heat 2246 01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:19,040 10 000 degrees and touch them yeah 2247 01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:20,560 almost immediately 2248 01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:23,840 i'm so curious how how 2249 01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:26,719 it's it seems to be very fragile like 2250 01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:28,080 how it like it 2251 01:22:31,510 --> 01:22:30,480 how did it slam into the ground without 2252 01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:31,520 just shattering 2253 01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:34,239 it it was actually it apparently lost 2254 01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:35,679 all of its altitude and all of its 2255 01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:36,960 velocity 2256 01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,000 and it bounced to 18 inches 2257 01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:42,320 in a sandy soil it was you know that's 2258 01:22:45,510 --> 01:22:43,600 true yeah 2259 01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,520 it's very light just as soft and it's 2260 01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:47,600 lightweight yeah 2261 01:22:52,629 --> 01:22:49,520 yeah but it's here i mean and we can't 2262 01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:52,639 deny the chemistry or anything 2263 01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:56,159 um i wanna i wanna buy a microscope and 2264 01:23:01,030 --> 01:22:59,199 i will uh i will help with that science 2265 01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:01,040 if possible when we pick you up i've 2266 01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:02,800 still got a microscope i bought all 2267 01:23:05,910 --> 01:23:03,840 everything i've put 2268 01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:05,920 twenty five hundred dollars to get a 2269 01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:08,400 microscope so i could look at it 2270 01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:11,440 um i spent thousands of dollars on on 2271 01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:14,880 our potassium argon dating test yeah 2272 01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:17,280 and so that is nice that's so 2273 01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:18,000 interesting 2274 01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:20,400 so i have information that it's real 2275 01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:22,239 yeah it's it's got to be difficult 2276 01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:24,719 though because you you found this this 2277 01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:28,080 this meteorite and in order to to look 2278 01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:29,679 at it you have to kind of destroy it at 2279 01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:30,639 the same time so 2280 01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:33,120 i guess it probably hurts your heart 2281 01:23:37,270 --> 01:23:34,960 when you have to look at it it's like 2282 01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:37,280 here's another chip okay and here's 2283 01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:38,880 another bad story 2284 01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:41,280 when i came to los alamos i was in the 2285 01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:43,360 newspaper i had my meteorite and i was 2286 01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:45,280 asking the lab to study it 2287 01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:47,199 so a group of people the lab agreed to 2288 01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:48,400 study it 2289 01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:50,000 and then after a few days they said well 2290 01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:51,520 they would only study it if i would let 2291 01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:53,360 them drill a hole through it 2292 01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:55,040 and i said okay i'll let you drill a 2293 01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:56,480 hole through it if you'll study it but 2294 01:23:59,590 --> 01:23:58,239 you can't use water you don't need water 2295 01:24:01,910 --> 01:23:59,600 it's not that 2296 01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:01,920 not hard so they drilled a hole through 2297 01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:03,440 it and then they decided they wasn't 2298 01:24:07,189 --> 01:24:04,960 going to study it 2299 01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:07,199 and i said why are you why are you not 2300 01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:08,480 going to study it 2301 01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:09,920 and he said well i just don't think it's 2302 01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:11,840 a meteorite 2303 01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:14,480 he said it doesn't show any shocking the 2304 01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:16,239 shocking has occurred when two things 2305 01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:16,560 hit 2306 01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:19,199 each other very hard so i showed him a 2307 01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:20,639 study that showed that none of the 2308 01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:22,080 martian meteorites that were already 2309 01:24:26,629 --> 01:24:23,920 recognized were shocked except 2310 01:24:27,669 --> 01:24:26,639 one the one the one they found life on 2311 01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:27,679 maybe 2312 01:24:31,990 --> 01:24:29,920 and it was shocked while it was on mars 2313 01:24:33,750 --> 01:24:32,000 billions of years ago 2314 01:24:35,110 --> 01:24:33,760 and then i showed him another scientific 2315 01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:35,120 report showing how you could get 2316 01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:38,080 material off of mars without shocking it 2317 01:24:42,830 --> 01:24:40,239 and he said i don't care i'm just not 2318 01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:42,840 going to study it 2319 01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:45,760 oh man so now i have a hole 2320 01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:47,120 all the way through the meteorite you're 2321 01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:49,120 right valuable information is lost to 2322 01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:50,400 humanity 2323 01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:52,560 because they made me do that and then 2324 01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:55,040 they wouldn't take it up and study it 2325 01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:57,199 ah that's frustrating you know that 2326 01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:58,800 makes me think of man is this this is 2327 01:25:01,430 --> 01:24:59,760 something i've been thinking about for a 2328 01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:01,440 little bit i i guess it kind of stems 2329 01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:02,480 from this this in 2330 01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:04,320 i guess inside joke between me and joe 2331 01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:06,000 and our podcast listeners 2332 01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:08,000 is this idea of the doctor scientists 2333 01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:09,600 like it 2334 01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:11,600 it's almost like you at a certain point 2335 01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:13,199 you have to laugh at it because 2336 01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:15,600 it's it's so frustrating some of this i 2337 01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:17,760 mean including your story mike where 2338 01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:20,560 the evidence is right there and it's for 2339 01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:21,280 someone 2340 01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:24,000 to look at it they can't look at it why 2341 01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:26,000 why don't you just look at it and it 2342 01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:28,239 i think it all stems back to this 2343 01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:30,080 protection of of the 2344 01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:32,000 of the community of maybe this falls 2345 01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:33,120 into like 2346 01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:36,080 doctors and and and egyptologists and 2347 01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:37,679 paleontologists like everybody's got a 2348 01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:45,270 reputation is at stake in their jobs 2349 01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:47,840 it's like you're you're born you're bred 2350 01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:48,560 into this 2351 01:25:52,149 --> 01:25:50,800 this cultural there's more than just the 2352 01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:52,159 science it seems there's 2353 01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:54,000 more than that that has to do with it 2354 01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:55,199 like you can't 2355 01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:56,960 be connected with something that may be 2356 01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:58,880 considered pseudoscience or 2357 01:26:02,470 --> 01:26:00,960 anything that might put your your 2358 01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:02,480 investment in jeopardy it's 2359 01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:04,800 so frustrating well one of my bad 2360 01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:06,960 personality habits is i 2361 01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:13,430 and i've literally had them get off the 2362 01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,960 bus so they wouldn't have to listen to 2363 01:26:18,950 --> 01:26:16,239 me 2364 01:26:19,990 --> 01:26:18,960 just get off how do you how do you know 2365 01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:20,000 usually 2366 01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:22,400 i talk to someone else i talked to the 2367 01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:23,920 driver or someone who's asked me a 2368 01:26:27,669 --> 01:26:25,520 question but i make sure that the 2369 01:26:30,790 --> 01:26:27,679 scientists can hear what i'm saying 2370 01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:30,800 and they just don't like it they just 2371 01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:32,639 even one bus driver was a scientist he 2372 01:26:36,790 --> 01:26:35,199 stopped picking me up he 2373 01:26:37,990 --> 01:26:36,800 had wouldn't even in twice he wouldn't 2374 01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:38,000 even stop for me 2375 01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:39,520 [Laughter] 2376 01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:41,040 i was gonna ask how do you how do you 2377 01:26:43,669 --> 01:26:42,719 spot the scientists like is it pretty 2378 01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:43,679 easy oh in los 2379 01:26:48,830 --> 01:26:47,280 alamos you can they're auras 2380 01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:48,840 just look for an ego and you got a 2381 01:26:55,669 --> 01:26:51,520 scientist 2382 01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:55,679 that's awesome dude oh my gosh oh man 2383 01:27:01,030 --> 01:26:58,480 so third person here is a millionaire 2384 01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:01,040 this is the richest 2385 01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:04,159 town in america that has the most phds 2386 01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:05,840 of any town 2387 01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:07,440 so there's a lot of game for me to shoot 2388 01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:09,280 at it yeah 2389 01:27:13,030 --> 01:27:11,760 definitely definitely and what's what's 2390 01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:13,040 interesting is there's a faith and 2391 01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:14,960 science group that meets here 2392 01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:16,480 trying to determine the you know the 2393 01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:19,360 relationship between faith and science 2394 01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:21,280 and they have everybody in the world 2395 01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:24,000 speak but they won't let me speak 2396 01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:26,639 and this week they're studying adam and 2397 01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:27,280 eve 2398 01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:28,800 and they're just they don't have a clue 2399 01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:31,520 what's going on so i sent a letter to 2400 01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:33,120 him just explain and adam and eve 2401 01:27:38,950 --> 01:27:36,800 go look at paper 73 74 75 76 you'll 2402 01:27:40,629 --> 01:27:38,960 learn everything about it 2403 01:27:42,629 --> 01:27:40,639 and they won't they won't let me speak 2404 01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:42,639 and they won't even most of them wanted 2405 01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:44,480 to talk to me 2406 01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:47,520 that's so weird that is very strange i 2407 01:27:50,149 --> 01:27:49,040 don't understand like for me it's always 2408 01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:50,159 been confusing 2409 01:27:53,669 --> 01:27:52,000 uh you know when stuff like that happens 2410 01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:53,679 because it's like how do you 2411 01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:55,040 how do you get to the bottom of 2412 01:28:00,070 --> 01:27:57,040 something if you don't listen to 2413 01:28:01,990 --> 01:28:00,080 to all the uh all the the 2414 01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:02,000 evidence or all the stories you know 2415 01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:04,080 like if you can't listen to 2416 01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:05,920 what everybody has to say then how can 2417 01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:08,080 you actually make an informed decision 2418 01:28:14,470 --> 01:28:11,760 on on the topic of discussion you know 2419 01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:14,480 yeah well if you want status in heaven 2420 01:28:18,149 --> 01:28:16,320 just about everybody goes if you believe 2421 01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:18,159 in god but if you want status you need 2422 01:28:21,910 --> 01:28:18,719 to 2423 01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:21,920 love the truth follow the truth and go 2424 01:28:27,270 --> 01:28:25,040 wherever it leads you um and that's what 2425 01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:27,280 the scientists are not willing to do 2426 01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:29,280 yeah and as an independent philosopher 2427 01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:30,880 that's where i've tried to always go 2428 01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:34,320 just go where the evidence takes me 2429 01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:35,679 i've never had my mind made up about 2430 01:28:40,550 --> 01:28:37,440 anything beforehand 2431 01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:40,560 right yeah that's what i like about you 2432 01:28:45,430 --> 01:28:42,000 man you've said this a lot 2433 01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:45,440 of times tonight and and it's it's uh 2434 01:28:49,430 --> 01:28:47,600 look i'm not i'm not telling you what to 2435 01:28:51,110 --> 01:28:49,440 believe i'm presenting evidence and 2436 01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:51,120 allowing you to make up your own 2437 01:28:55,189 --> 01:28:53,600 you know your your own conclusion about 2438 01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:55,199 the evidence that i present 2439 01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:57,440 right you you have your own opinions on 2440 01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:58,960 what you think it is but 2441 01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:00,719 you're not telling anybody to believe 2442 01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:02,560 anything you're saying hey 2443 01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:05,199 go look at this just check it out that's 2444 01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:05,760 literally 2445 01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:07,920 all you want people to do is look at 2446 01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:09,040 some paper 2447 01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:12,080 and just say what do you think right but 2448 01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:12,880 they won't even 2449 01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:16,480 give give that time you know 2450 01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:18,639 and and it's it's it's kind of strange 2451 01:29:22,470 --> 01:29:19,679 you know we 2452 01:29:22,950 --> 01:29:22,480 time is a very time is the most valuable 2453 01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:22,960 thing 2454 01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:26,560 for for as a human being right 2455 01:29:30,870 --> 01:29:29,280 yeah yeah in heaven you have eternity so 2456 01:29:33,350 --> 01:29:30,880 time is no longer important 2457 01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:33,360 exactly you have so much time to get 2458 01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:34,560 your job done 2459 01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:38,719 exactly exactly so you know in a in a 2460 01:29:42,709 --> 01:29:41,280 in a small way i kind of understand like 2461 01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:42,719 if it's just not your thing it's not 2462 01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:45,280 your thing but at the same time 2463 01:29:51,669 --> 01:29:48,800 when something that uh 2464 01:29:53,270 --> 01:29:51,679 says hey i might have some answers right 2465 01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:53,280 and and you just don't take the time to 2466 01:29:55,990 --> 01:29:54,080 look at it 2467 01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:56,000 there's a difference in disinterest and 2468 01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:57,360 then just being lazy 2469 01:30:01,910 --> 01:29:59,920 you know yeah well in rancho book says 2470 01:30:11,270 --> 01:30:01,920 the mortal mind is lazy and solving 2471 01:30:14,870 --> 01:30:13,510 i'm a philosopher so i love to look for 2472 01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:14,880 problems and try to solve them but 2473 01:30:18,390 --> 01:30:16,800 that's not human nature 2474 01:30:19,669 --> 01:30:18,400 right i love that i love that you have a 2475 01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:19,679 good attitude about it man you're like 2476 01:30:24,149 --> 01:30:21,440 you're not salty at all 2477 01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:24,159 yeah like you're just kind of like hey i 2478 01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:25,520 don't know they're just not looking at 2479 01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:25,920 i'm 2480 01:30:29,350 --> 01:30:28,000 well given them we didn't see his face 2481 01:30:31,030 --> 01:30:29,360 when they drilled a hole through his 2482 01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:31,040 meteor right and then gave it back and 2483 01:30:34,229 --> 01:30:32,000 was like never mind 2484 01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:34,239 yeah but he's pretty upset about that 2485 01:30:39,669 --> 01:30:36,080 well the around the book has helped me 2486 01:30:41,990 --> 01:30:39,679 you know be able to handle all these 2487 01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:42,000 different situations and understand 2488 01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:43,600 all i have to do each day is the will of 2489 01:30:47,590 --> 01:30:46,000 god i don't have to do anything else if 2490 01:30:49,189 --> 01:30:47,600 i've done that then i've completed my 2491 01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:49,199 mission on earth 2492 01:30:52,629 --> 01:30:51,360 and so i just take it one day at a time 2493 01:30:57,510 --> 01:30:52,639 and 2494 01:30:58,950 --> 01:30:57,520 something may happen from this so 2495 01:31:01,910 --> 01:30:58,960 i don't know how many people you have 2496 01:31:03,590 --> 01:31:01,920 that watch but 2497 01:31:06,229 --> 01:31:03,600 is going to look at the meteorite 2498 01:31:09,750 --> 01:31:06,239 somebody later somebody's going to 2499 01:31:11,270 --> 01:31:09,760 say yeah the zeta are real yeah man 2500 01:31:13,350 --> 01:31:11,280 yeah yeah you'd be surprised who's 2501 01:31:15,510 --> 01:31:13,360 listening right now i mean 2502 01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:15,520 i was curious man how did your 2503 01:31:19,510 --> 01:31:17,440 transition from because i know when you 2504 01:31:21,510 --> 01:31:19,520 said that when you were a kid 2505 01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:21,520 your mom sat you down and said hey look 2506 01:31:25,510 --> 01:31:23,520 this is what christians do we read the 2507 01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:25,520 bible and we pray for things that we 2508 01:31:29,590 --> 01:31:27,520 want and need or whatever 2509 01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:29,600 how did that transition did you go 2510 01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:32,320 through a period of time to where 2511 01:31:38,310 --> 01:31:35,440 you uh maybe resented the old 2512 01:31:38,870 --> 01:31:38,320 christian values and the bible and stuff 2513 01:31:44,229 --> 01:31:38,880 and 2514 01:31:47,189 --> 01:31:44,239 the urantia book 2515 01:31:49,910 --> 01:31:47,199 or did you make the transition over to 2516 01:31:52,229 --> 01:31:49,920 your rancho book 2517 01:31:53,990 --> 01:31:52,239 well um the story you tell us what i 2518 01:31:57,189 --> 01:31:54,000 hear over and over 2519 01:32:00,629 --> 01:31:57,199 i never really lost faith 2520 01:32:02,950 --> 01:32:00,639 right i realized the church was wrong 2521 01:32:04,790 --> 01:32:02,960 early and now luckily i had a good 2522 01:32:06,149 --> 01:32:04,800 preacher when i was really little 2523 01:32:07,990 --> 01:32:06,159 like i asked him what's about 2524 01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:08,000 creationism and 2525 01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:11,440 and evolution and he said well you know 2526 01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:14,400 science is a search for facts in one 2527 01:32:17,189 --> 01:32:15,280 reality 2528 01:32:18,629 --> 01:32:17,199 and spirituality is a search for facts 2529 01:32:20,870 --> 01:32:18,639 and another reality 2530 01:32:21,750 --> 01:32:20,880 and god made them both so you they 2531 01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:21,760 should never 2532 01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:24,239 conflict and the rancher book says 2533 01:32:26,950 --> 01:32:24,800 science 2534 01:32:28,149 --> 01:32:26,960 only gets rid of myths and religion it 2535 01:32:31,669 --> 01:32:28,159 doesn't 2536 01:32:33,830 --> 01:32:31,679 any effect upon you 2537 01:32:35,510 --> 01:32:33,840 science just gets rid of the things that 2538 01:32:39,030 --> 01:32:35,520 aren't true 2539 01:32:40,709 --> 01:32:39,040 so i went through um 2540 01:32:42,790 --> 01:32:40,719 i've walked the equivalent of the 2541 01:32:44,390 --> 01:32:42,800 circumference of the world 2542 01:32:46,470 --> 01:32:44,400 uh talking to the father and asking 2543 01:32:48,790 --> 01:32:46,480 about gravity and how things worked 2544 01:32:50,310 --> 01:32:48,800 and he revealed a bunch of answers to me 2545 01:32:54,229 --> 01:32:50,320 over time 2546 01:32:55,510 --> 01:32:54,239 and so um i i reached the end of my 2547 01:32:57,830 --> 01:32:55,520 potential 2548 01:32:59,189 --> 01:32:57,840 i i went as far as i could go on my own 2549 01:33:01,510 --> 01:32:59,199 and the ratchet book says 2550 01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:01,520 every mortal and every world has a limit 2551 01:33:05,110 --> 01:33:03,760 to what they can figure out on their own 2552 01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:05,120 so then i went through a period of 2553 01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:07,760 several years of decline that i wasn't 2554 01:33:10,870 --> 01:33:09,840 that i wasn't happy and i didn't wasn't 2555 01:33:12,629 --> 01:33:10,880 advancing 2556 01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:12,639 and then i found the urantia book and 2557 01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:15,040 then from that point i realized that 2558 01:33:18,070 --> 01:33:17,120 you know learning is an infinite process 2559 01:33:20,950 --> 01:33:18,080 it never stops 2560 01:33:22,790 --> 01:33:20,960 it goes on and on forever and i found 2561 01:33:24,229 --> 01:33:22,800 the answers that allowed me to motivate 2562 01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:24,239 and get back 2563 01:33:31,030 --> 01:33:27,760 in this and try to change things 2564 01:33:32,390 --> 01:33:31,040 yeah i i honestly feel like learning 2565 01:33:35,669 --> 01:33:32,400 about this now 2566 01:33:38,709 --> 01:33:35,679 uh in my kind of journey with 2567 01:33:40,390 --> 01:33:38,719 the ufo the alien topic i've always been 2568 01:33:42,790 --> 01:33:40,400 interested in it but 2569 01:33:44,149 --> 01:33:42,800 uh learning about this now i have kind 2570 01:33:47,030 --> 01:33:44,159 of felt a little stagnant 2571 01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:47,040 uh with with my my curiosity it's like 2572 01:33:50,310 --> 01:33:48,000 i've 2573 01:33:51,669 --> 01:33:50,320 almost reached a point where like well 2574 01:33:53,669 --> 01:33:51,679 what else could it be 2575 01:33:55,990 --> 01:33:53,679 just trying to figure it out and what's 2576 01:33:58,950 --> 01:33:56,000 new what's new man i want to know 2577 01:33:59,590 --> 01:33:58,960 so like the timing on this information 2578 01:34:00,790 --> 01:33:59,600 yeah 2579 01:34:02,790 --> 01:34:00,800 the timing i mean there's still stuff 2580 01:34:03,350 --> 01:34:02,800 that i'm still like i feel like i don't 2581 01:34:06,390 --> 01:34:03,360 know 2582 01:34:09,910 --> 01:34:06,400 like new concepts 2583 01:34:11,669 --> 01:34:09,920 is like this is definitely refreshing uh 2584 01:34:13,669 --> 01:34:11,679 new concepts like i would love to figure 2585 01:34:16,830 --> 01:34:13,679 out like what the sumerians were all 2586 01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:16,840 about what were they doing man 2587 01:34:26,790 --> 01:34:24,310 i love it i love it so yeah 2588 01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:26,800 get the book with the subject index and 2589 01:34:29,750 --> 01:34:28,560 just look up any subject that you want 2590 01:34:32,870 --> 01:34:29,760 it's 2591 01:34:34,629 --> 01:34:32,880 there 2592 01:34:37,350 --> 01:34:34,639 i love that i love that you know and 2593 01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:37,360 it's it's it's funny too because 2594 01:34:44,229 --> 01:34:40,560 i always i grew up in like a really 2595 01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:44,239 uh a really strict catholic 2596 01:34:52,470 --> 01:34:48,400 uh family right and i always wondered 2597 01:34:53,910 --> 01:34:52,480 myself as a kid and growing up like 2598 01:34:56,070 --> 01:34:53,920 there was always science and then there 2599 01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:56,080 was religion but for me it was always 2600 01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:57,520 like well what if 2601 01:35:01,990 --> 01:35:00,880 what if science just makes the story 2602 01:35:03,430 --> 01:35:02,000 make more sense 2603 01:35:05,270 --> 01:35:03,440 you know it's not so much a 2604 01:35:07,109 --> 01:35:05,280 contradiction we're actually 2605 01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:07,119 figuring out the science behind the 2606 01:35:12,070 --> 01:35:08,719 heavens and 2607 01:35:15,030 --> 01:35:12,080 that to me was more interesting than uh 2608 01:35:15,750 --> 01:35:15,040 as a combination right than either 2609 01:35:18,709 --> 01:35:15,760 subject 2610 01:35:20,229 --> 01:35:18,719 on its own well i do a lot of spiritual 2611 01:35:22,149 --> 01:35:20,239 teaching and i work with a lot of people 2612 01:35:23,750 --> 01:35:22,159 with problems and stuff 2613 01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:23,760 and what i've discovered is that what 2614 01:35:28,870 --> 01:35:25,920 you say is really true that most 2615 01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:28,880 people were raised in a church then they 2616 01:35:32,709 --> 01:35:30,320 lost faith in the church 2617 01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:32,719 and then they gave up on god and then 2618 01:35:36,229 --> 01:35:34,639 they started believing in god again and 2619 01:35:37,910 --> 01:35:36,239 then whenever i show them the ranch book 2620 01:35:40,310 --> 01:35:37,920 now they can put it all together 2621 01:35:41,750 --> 01:35:40,320 here's the truth and they can believe it 2622 01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:41,760 but there's not enough truth being 2623 01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:42,000 taught 2624 01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:44,960 in the churches so it's easy to doubt 2625 01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:46,960 you know what they're saying and 2626 01:35:51,270 --> 01:35:48,480 and then so many of them i mean they 2627 01:35:54,470 --> 01:35:51,280 just make science and religion conflict 2628 01:35:57,430 --> 01:35:54,480 like the two can't be together right 2629 01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:57,440 but um the rancher book says the cause 2630 01:36:01,669 --> 01:35:59,040 of all energies 2631 01:36:02,950 --> 01:36:01,679 materials spiritual bible and 2632 01:36:05,189 --> 01:36:02,960 personality 2633 01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:05,199 come from from heaven and that's the 2634 01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:07,360 first cause of everything 2635 01:36:12,070 --> 01:36:09,040 so the problem with the scientists is 2636 01:36:14,229 --> 01:36:12,080 they are about studying cause and effect 2637 01:36:16,070 --> 01:36:14,239 but um they can't tell you what the 2638 01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:16,080 first cause was 2639 01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:17,840 so i can ask you what caused you and you 2640 01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:19,280 say well my parents and i said what 2641 01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:20,400 caused them 2642 01:36:24,229 --> 01:36:22,320 we go back go back go back back go back 2643 01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:24,239 to the first sales go back back 2644 01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:25,840 what was the first cause well they can 2645 01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:28,000 never answer it and even with their big 2646 01:36:32,229 --> 01:36:29,280 bang theory right now 2647 01:36:34,229 --> 01:36:32,239 they have an effect without a cause so 2648 01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:34,239 it's really not a scientific model it's 2649 01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:34,560 a 2650 01:36:42,310 --> 01:36:40,000 from nothing 2651 01:36:43,590 --> 01:36:42,320 in their model where the rancho book 2652 01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:43,600 says things are 2653 01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:46,880 so much older and i figured that out a 2654 01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:48,080 long time ago 2655 01:36:53,350 --> 01:36:51,600 right i look at the milky way according 2656 01:36:56,310 --> 01:36:53,360 to them it's only orbited like 2657 01:36:58,149 --> 01:36:56,320 45 times or something can you imagine 2658 01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:58,159 something as big as the milky way only 2659 01:37:03,590 --> 01:37:00,239 turning around 45 2660 01:37:06,629 --> 01:37:03,600 times in all of existence i mean it just 2661 01:37:08,950 --> 01:37:06,639 doesn't make sense it's been 2662 01:37:10,310 --> 01:37:08,960 it's been spinning for trillions of 2663 01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:10,320 years 2664 01:37:15,510 --> 01:37:13,520 it's so big wow 2665 01:37:17,189 --> 01:37:15,520 dude that's such a long time i've never 2666 01:37:18,870 --> 01:37:17,199 i've never i've never even thought about 2667 01:37:20,310 --> 01:37:18,880 that 2668 01:37:22,149 --> 01:37:20,320 does he believe in different dimensions 2669 01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:22,159 just came up with oh yeah 2670 01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:24,639 yeah yeah do you believe in a different 2671 01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:30,229 um absolutely when you get to um 2672 01:37:34,709 --> 01:37:33,119 to paradise isle the home of god there's 2673 01:37:37,590 --> 01:37:34,719 actually 2674 01:37:38,709 --> 01:37:37,600 ten dimensions there's one thousand 2675 01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:38,719 elements 2676 01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:42,480 um it's totally different 2677 01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:46,000 so the the the crystalia that i've 2678 01:37:48,950 --> 01:37:47,440 talked about 2679 01:37:51,750 --> 01:37:48,960 the reason they can store so much 2680 01:37:53,750 --> 01:37:51,760 information is exist in 10 dimensions 2681 01:37:55,430 --> 01:37:53,760 there's three dimensions in the material 2682 01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:55,440 world and there's seven 2683 01:37:58,870 --> 01:37:57,600 more in the semi material in the 2684 01:38:02,390 --> 01:37:58,880 spiritual 2685 01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:02,400 realms so the extra dimensions 2686 01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:05,679 go into the spiritual realm 2687 01:38:09,510 --> 01:38:07,600 and that's how some spirits are able to 2688 01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:09,520 kind of work that to get 2689 01:38:15,910 --> 01:38:12,560 get into us that's very interesting 2690 01:38:16,950 --> 01:38:15,920 so there are 10 dimensions in reality 2691 01:38:19,669 --> 01:38:16,960 and interesting enough 2692 01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:19,679 in the superstring mathematics they 2693 01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:21,520 always in their super spring 2694 01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:23,440 at multiple dimensions and they can't 2695 01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:25,199 figure out how many it is 2696 01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:28,400 so the answer would be 10. 2697 01:38:34,070 --> 01:38:32,080 yeah so do and you're in your experience 2698 01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:34,080 uh or the knowledge that you have about 2699 01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:35,119 the dimensions 2700 01:38:39,990 --> 01:38:38,159 do they exist at the same time or is it 2701 01:38:43,109 --> 01:38:40,000 does this time just not exist 2702 01:38:45,189 --> 01:38:43,119 with within these this theory in this in 2703 01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:45,199 spiritual reality there is no time 2704 01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:46,719 once you become a spirit you're no 2705 01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:49,040 longer a time being 2706 01:38:52,629 --> 01:38:51,440 time is a function of space it's a 2707 01:38:55,430 --> 01:38:52,639 function of the 2708 01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:55,440 evolving universe space and time even 2709 01:39:01,109 --> 01:38:56,880 under my gravity monitor 2710 01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:01,119 are related intimately i i've i've 2711 01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:02,719 and there's actually sections on it in 2712 01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:04,560 the rancho book it talks about space and 2713 01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:05,920 time and jesus 2714 01:39:09,189 --> 01:39:07,840 actually talked about space and time and 2715 01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:09,199 reality and 2716 01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:12,960 some very deep subjects he talked about 2717 01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:15,040 the difference between the the spiritual 2718 01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:17,199 and the physical realities 2719 01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:19,600 he gave them really interesting that's 2720 01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:20,960 so cool i 2721 01:39:27,189 --> 01:39:24,239 i recently uh heard someone speak about 2722 01:39:28,709 --> 01:39:27,199 the uh so you have the one dimension two 2723 01:39:31,189 --> 01:39:28,719 dimension the third dimension 2724 01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:31,199 and then the fourth dimension is uh 2725 01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:34,639 described by time so 2726 01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:37,440 that's mine's mistake time is not a 2727 01:39:40,149 --> 01:39:38,080 dimension 2728 01:39:41,669 --> 01:39:40,159 it's an aspect of space and reality it's 2729 01:39:43,830 --> 01:39:41,679 but it's not a dimension 2730 01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:43,840 it can be used to classify something as 2731 01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:45,520 the coordinates 2732 01:39:49,510 --> 01:39:46,880 and space coordinates and time 2733 01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:49,520 coordinates but time is not a dimension 2734 01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:53,119 so it's maybe a unit a unit of direction 2735 01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:55,600 unit of direction gravionics i've 2736 01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:56,800 described i define 2737 01:40:00,709 --> 01:39:59,280 time as the changing of the connections 2738 01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:00,719 of gravity 2739 01:40:05,109 --> 01:40:03,600 whenever and like right now just in your 2740 01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:05,119 presence you guys are 2741 01:40:08,709 --> 01:40:06,800 there's a jillion gravitational 2742 01:40:10,629 --> 01:40:08,719 connections between you 2743 01:40:12,629 --> 01:40:10,639 each one that changes as you move or do 2744 01:40:14,390 --> 01:40:12,639 anything or you think 2745 01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:14,400 that creates a change of of a 2746 01:40:17,990 --> 01:40:16,159 gravitational connection in the mass and 2747 01:40:21,350 --> 01:40:18,000 that's what spine is 2748 01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:21,360 those if you follow a particle of light 2749 01:40:25,270 --> 01:40:24,320 coming there's no time associated with 2750 01:40:29,669 --> 01:40:25,280 it because no there's no 2751 01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:32,390 so in the rancho book if that if there's 2752 01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:33,679 three dimensions that 2753 01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:36,880 are classified with materialism 2754 01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:40,239 and and the material reality 2755 01:40:44,870 --> 01:40:42,639 the material reality is that why we are 2756 01:40:47,109 --> 01:40:44,880 still considered like 2757 01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:47,119 third dimensional beings because we are 2758 01:40:51,270 --> 01:40:48,239 in the material 2759 01:40:53,430 --> 01:40:51,280 reality basically well who considers 2760 01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:53,440 this third dimensional to beings 2761 01:40:58,310 --> 01:40:56,560 well where did that term come from 2762 01:41:00,070 --> 01:40:58,320 well i i guess if we're if we're talking 2763 01:41:02,070 --> 01:41:00,080 about like the three-dimensional world 2764 01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:02,080 the physical reality that we live in 2765 01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:04,560 i guess like science would say like yeah 2766 01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:05,199 it's kind of a 2767 01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:09,760 that we live in that we can perceive 2768 01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:11,679 at least there's obviously more 2769 01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:13,199 dimensions but if we're just talking 2770 01:41:17,750 --> 01:41:15,040 about the three-dimensional world 2771 01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:17,760 if in the urantia book it kind of like 2772 01:41:21,030 --> 01:41:19,360 there's this little connection to where 2773 01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:21,040 if it is the material 2774 01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:23,280 world then that would make sense why we 2775 01:41:29,270 --> 01:41:25,840 are only like a third dimensional 2776 01:41:30,870 --> 01:41:29,280 yeah being you know yeah yeah 2777 01:41:32,149 --> 01:41:30,880 because once you get into the fourth and 2778 01:41:33,590 --> 01:41:32,159 fifth and you get into these higher 2779 01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:33,600 realms you start to lose that 2780 01:41:36,870 --> 01:41:35,360 spirit realms at that point or 2781 01:41:39,189 --> 01:41:36,880 semi-material spirit 2782 01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:39,199 right so if you're not a once you get 2783 01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:41,600 into that that range if you're not a 2784 01:41:46,149 --> 01:41:42,719 time 2785 01:41:48,070 --> 01:41:46,159 uh constrainted being 2786 01:41:49,990 --> 01:41:48,080 are you are you more of like a place 2787 01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:50,000 being it's like it's not so much that 2788 01:41:55,270 --> 01:41:52,080 you're here at a time but you're 2789 01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:55,280 in a certain place well 2790 01:41:59,109 --> 01:41:57,280 spirits just don't have any relationship 2791 01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:59,119 hardly to the 2792 01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:00,800 to the material reality there's an 2793 01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:02,719 interesting section on the 2794 01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:05,760 on the celestial um artisans 2795 01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:09,199 that paper and it's being 2796 01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:11,520 dictated by an archangel and the 2797 01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:13,600 archangel says that from his viewpoint 2798 01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:14,000 he 2799 01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:17,520 in 2800 01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:20,560 and he has help from a physical from a 2801 01:42:23,990 --> 01:42:22,719 being that can change energies and help 2802 01:42:25,990 --> 01:42:24,000 him materialize it 2803 01:42:27,910 --> 01:42:26,000 and also with him as a divine counselor 2804 01:42:29,830 --> 01:42:27,920 which comes from the central universe 2805 01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:29,840 and the physical reality is even more 2806 01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:32,239 invisible to him he has to help help 2807 01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:34,960 to even perceive it but next to him is a 2808 01:42:38,310 --> 01:42:36,800 mining messenger which is a 2809 01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:38,320 mortal that's been through all the 2810 01:42:42,870 --> 01:42:40,320 training and spirits and everything and 2811 01:42:44,950 --> 01:42:42,880 perfected and he still has all the 2812 01:42:48,229 --> 01:42:44,960 sights that he had as a mortal 2813 01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:48,239 you gain about 70 senses in heaven and 2814 01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:52,159 so but you never lose any so the one the 2815 01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:54,800 ex mortal he could see the room see 2816 01:42:58,550 --> 01:42:56,000 everything that he could ever 2817 01:43:01,030 --> 01:42:58,560 see but the more spiritual beings can't 2818 01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:01,040 see it and they just pass right exist 2819 01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:04,320 wow dude and that's all described in 2820 01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:06,239 there if you 2821 01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:09,040 want more details it's got everything i 2822 01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:09,360 i 2823 01:43:14,950 --> 01:43:12,719 and 2824 01:43:17,030 --> 01:43:14,960 i was you beat me to the punch but uh 2825 01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:17,040 mike so what do you think about 2826 01:43:20,709 --> 01:43:19,199 the relationship between the two uh not 2827 01:43:23,590 --> 01:43:20,719 the pituitary uh the 2828 01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:23,600 pineal gland and the dream state like 2829 01:43:25,669 --> 01:43:24,080 what's 2830 01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:25,679 the what do you know about maybe the 2831 01:43:30,310 --> 01:43:27,600 connection between the dream state 2832 01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:30,320 and dimensionality or well it discusses 2833 01:43:35,270 --> 01:43:31,600 that somewhat the 2834 01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:35,280 pituitary gland affects brain chemistry 2835 01:43:38,310 --> 01:43:37,679 so what the results are we don't exactly 2836 01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:38,320 know 2837 01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:40,320 but it says to be really careful about 2838 01:43:43,109 --> 01:43:41,520 interpreting dreams 2839 01:43:45,430 --> 01:43:43,119 that most of them come from the animal 2840 01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:45,440 world and they don't mean anything a few 2841 01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:47,920 can come from above 2842 01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:50,000 but he said you need to be really 2843 01:43:54,550 --> 01:43:52,639 careful interpreting dreams that 2844 01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:54,560 um that's probably not something that 2845 01:43:59,109 --> 01:43:56,639 you should try to do 2846 01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:59,119 so uh have you have you ever experienced 2847 01:44:01,750 --> 01:44:00,480 or maybe know somebody that 2848 01:44:03,830 --> 01:44:01,760 has experienced like auditory 2849 01:44:05,109 --> 01:44:03,840 hallucinations while in dream state or 2850 01:44:09,430 --> 01:44:05,119 maybe you've heard 2851 01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:09,440 or had or received downloads well um 2852 01:44:13,510 --> 01:44:11,840 you know um i've told you kind of how 2853 01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:13,520 they received the rancher book and the 2854 01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:15,280 stuff 2855 01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:17,440 they talk in their sleeve but the way i 2856 01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:19,199 kind of receive revelations is god just 2857 01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:21,040 puts pictures in my mind 2858 01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:23,040 i can see the gravitational systems that 2859 01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:24,400 it just appears 2860 01:44:27,910 --> 01:44:27,440 all at once imagine if a car just 2861 01:44:29,430 --> 01:44:27,920 appeared 2862 01:44:31,910 --> 01:44:29,440 in front of you and you could see all 2863 01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:31,920 the parts and now they all interrelated 2864 01:44:35,669 --> 01:44:33,520 that's kind of the way it works with me 2865 01:44:38,790 --> 01:44:35,679 these images just appear 2866 01:44:40,310 --> 01:44:38,800 um three-dimensional that 2867 01:44:42,629 --> 01:44:40,320 that kind of helped me understand what's 2868 01:44:43,510 --> 01:44:42,639 going on yeah does that answer your 2869 01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:43,520 question 2870 01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:46,000 yeah absolutely you know i i'm glad you 2871 01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:47,600 brought that up i mean i i guess i was 2872 01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:48,960 kind of reiterating 2873 01:44:55,669 --> 01:44:52,400 that idea because dick cheney is not 2874 01:45:01,590 --> 01:44:59,270 we so we have we have pretty fun fun uh 2875 01:45:02,390 --> 01:45:01,600 uh people in the in the chat and you 2876 01:45:04,709 --> 01:45:02,400 know i mean 2877 01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:04,719 it just gets silly sometimes but we have 2878 01:45:10,070 --> 01:45:06,560 a good time well 2879 01:45:11,990 --> 01:45:10,080 there's no sex in heaven for you 2880 01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:12,000 but the material sons and daughters are 2881 01:45:15,990 --> 01:45:13,600 the sex creatures of heaven 2882 01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:16,000 the adams and eve's they have families 2883 01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:18,239 in heaven they teach proper family life 2884 01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:20,400 and all that kind of thing 2885 01:45:24,550 --> 01:45:22,560 so all the people on earth they have 2886 01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:24,560 oral sex 2887 01:45:29,590 --> 01:45:26,800 the the updated rancher book says though 2888 01:45:38,950 --> 01:45:29,600 that we should 2889 01:45:40,629 --> 01:45:38,960 and everybody they're going to start 2890 01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:40,639 turning on you in the chat now 2891 01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:42,080 yeah i don't know if you can say that 2892 01:45:48,950 --> 01:45:43,330 you're going to see the other one 2893 01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:48,960 [Laughter] 2894 01:45:54,229 --> 01:45:50,800 [Music] 2895 01:45:56,470 --> 01:45:54,239 i love that man i love that so much dude 2896 01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:56,480 earth girls have all the fun right yeah 2897 01:46:01,510 --> 01:45:57,679 well you know i'm 2898 01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:01,520 i'm we should accept everybody no doubt 2899 01:46:04,470 --> 01:46:02,960 but i'm not sure that all of the 2900 01:46:05,910 --> 01:46:04,480 lifestyles on earth are exactly what 2901 01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:05,920 heaven and planned 2902 01:46:10,070 --> 01:46:07,520 in a normal world it's they're probably 2903 01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:10,080 not but right now we need to accept 2904 01:46:14,149 --> 01:46:12,159 people that's what's important 2905 01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:14,159 um i just really don't want to know 2906 01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:16,480 about their sex life though 2907 01:46:22,229 --> 01:46:19,840 that's all right yeah 2908 01:46:23,750 --> 01:46:22,239 primitive humans like this disguise sex 2909 01:46:33,350 --> 01:46:23,760 he's got enough stuff to think about 2910 01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:34,790 someone say you're doing it right though 2911 01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:40,550 it would say you're doing it right 2912 01:46:46,310 --> 01:46:43,679 oh man yeah well i'm trying and i 2913 01:46:48,229 --> 01:46:46,320 i'm very close contact with my 2914 01:46:49,910 --> 01:46:48,239 indwelling adjuster the father within 2915 01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:49,920 the god within 2916 01:46:54,070 --> 01:46:51,760 so every day i do the will of god and i 2917 01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:54,080 know that i'm doing it 2918 01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:55,920 i like that that's beautiful i like that 2919 01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:57,119 yeah yeah 2920 01:47:01,270 --> 01:46:59,920 so so in your in your mind i mean in in 2921 01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:01,280 your experience 2922 01:47:05,910 --> 01:47:04,320 all creation is is equal like it so 2923 01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:05,920 there is some stuff in the bible 2924 01:47:09,990 --> 01:47:08,800 that that that talks about like hey like 2925 01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:10,000 everybody 2926 01:47:20,830 --> 01:47:15,040 same like treat your neighbor as 2927 01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:24,950 but 2928 01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:26,550 i was going to ask like should we treat 2929 01:47:29,669 --> 01:47:28,960 uh extraterrestrials as equal as that 2930 01:47:31,350 --> 01:47:29,679 kind of 2931 01:47:33,189 --> 01:47:31,360 the sentiment here because i i think so 2932 01:47:34,149 --> 01:47:33,199 yes like maybe that fear shouldn't be 2933 01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:34,159 there 2934 01:47:37,990 --> 01:47:36,000 yeah jesus taught that everybody is your 2935 01:47:39,990 --> 01:47:38,000 brother but he was teaching it for all 2936 01:47:41,990 --> 01:47:40,000 10 million of his worlds 2937 01:47:44,310 --> 01:47:42,000 every being on another planet is your 2938 01:47:45,910 --> 01:47:44,320 brother to justice 2939 01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:45,920 even the bible asks the question who is 2940 01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:47,679 my neighbor 2941 01:47:52,310 --> 01:47:49,520 is it just the guy that lives closest to 2942 01:47:54,229 --> 01:47:52,320 me no jesus said it's everybody on earth 2943 01:47:56,390 --> 01:47:54,239 but to the celestial beings he said it's 2944 01:47:58,070 --> 01:47:56,400 everybody in existence 2945 01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:58,080 and so the basic rule through all 2946 01:48:01,669 --> 01:47:59,600 existence if you're 2947 01:48:03,510 --> 01:48:01,679 with somebody that those lessen you you 2948 01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:03,520 teach them if you're with somebody that 2949 01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:04,000 knows more 2950 01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:06,639 than you you'll respect them and listen 2951 01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:07,199 to them 2952 01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:11,040 that's right yeah that's 2953 01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:13,360 a good rule for earth i mean yeah yeah i 2954 01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:14,719 love that that's a good rule of thumb 2955 01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:18,239 for anything yeah for sure dude 2956 01:48:22,629 --> 01:48:20,639 yeah van gogh says even chuck norris 2957 01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:22,639 said apologize to every blade 2958 01:48:27,510 --> 01:48:24,880 of grass you tread upon that's kind of 2959 01:48:29,590 --> 01:48:27,520 cool i didn't does he really say that 2960 01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:29,600 that's awesome chuck norris does a lot 2961 01:48:33,910 --> 01:48:30,960 of things that that 2962 01:48:35,669 --> 01:48:33,920 i don't know about i'm sure so mike 2963 01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:35,679 earlier you had mentioned 2964 01:48:38,950 --> 01:48:38,000 uh we started talking a little bit about 2965 01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:38,960 the uh 2966 01:48:44,070 --> 01:48:42,639 the the zetas and and their saucer 2967 01:48:47,109 --> 01:48:44,080 shaped craft 2968 01:48:50,870 --> 01:48:47,119 do we have any identification on on 2969 01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:50,880 who's piloting some of this other stuff 2970 01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:54,480 well um the one that got shot down it 2971 01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:56,000 says there was three people in it there 2972 01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:57,440 was an operator 2973 01:49:01,669 --> 01:49:00,000 an astrophysicist and a pr well a 2974 01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:01,679 pregnant astrophysicist 2975 01:49:08,629 --> 01:49:05,520 and one other scientist i can't remember 2976 01:49:10,310 --> 01:49:08,639 and so they don't even call it a 2977 01:49:11,990 --> 01:49:10,320 spaceship driver they just call it an 2978 01:49:16,310 --> 01:49:12,000 operator 2979 01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:16,320 wow it says they recharge on montumbria 2980 01:49:20,550 --> 01:49:19,440 that there's recharging stations and so 2981 01:49:22,229 --> 01:49:20,560 um 2982 01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:22,239 bob lazar i don't know if you're 2983 01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:24,400 familiar with him but he says that 2984 01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:28,239 they used element 115 and so 2985 01:49:31,109 --> 01:49:29,760 but there the rancher book says they're 2986 01:49:33,830 --> 01:49:31,119 recharging i don't know if they use 2987 01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:33,840 element 115 to recharge 2988 01:49:37,350 --> 01:49:35,520 and by the way that and when you get to 2989 01:49:39,030 --> 01:49:37,360 the next stage of life there's 200 2990 01:49:40,229 --> 01:49:39,040 elements in the mirantia world the next 2991 01:49:42,229 --> 01:49:40,239 stage 2992 01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:42,239 they slow everything down and so there's 2993 01:49:47,270 --> 01:49:44,480 gigantic crystals and metals and stuff 2994 01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:47,280 that we don't know about 2995 01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:49,360 there's one there's a there's a landing 2996 01:49:53,189 --> 01:49:50,639 crystal on most 2997 01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:53,199 artificial worlds that's a hundred miles 2998 01:49:57,270 --> 01:49:54,880 across and sixty miles 2999 01:49:59,910 --> 01:49:57,280 deep that's where the angels take off 3000 01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:02,950 and they also have it for for shows they 3001 01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:04,480 can see the billion beings 3002 01:50:08,830 --> 01:50:07,360 can watch a performance on one of those 3003 01:50:18,310 --> 01:50:08,840 no way 3004 01:50:22,550 --> 01:50:21,109 yeah they said recently recently a 3005 01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:22,560 million beings 3006 01:50:29,030 --> 01:50:25,920 recreated a thousand scenes in a 3007 01:50:31,510 --> 01:50:29,040 in a performance whoa 3008 01:50:33,030 --> 01:50:31,520 so is this performance like a theatrical 3009 01:50:35,109 --> 01:50:33,040 kind of thing is this like yeah 3010 01:50:37,030 --> 01:50:35,119 it's they reap they reproduce um there's 3011 01:50:38,149 --> 01:50:37,040 all kinds of celestial artisans to 3012 01:50:40,629 --> 01:50:38,159 uplift 3013 01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:40,639 uh half the time off in heaven is yours 3014 01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:41,920 is off 3015 01:50:45,669 --> 01:50:43,520 and so there's all kinds of things to 3016 01:50:48,229 --> 01:50:45,679 keep you happy and remind you of things 3017 01:50:51,750 --> 01:50:48,239 that have happened and 3018 01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:51,760 yeah your vision is greatly extended and 3019 01:50:56,790 --> 01:50:54,080 most of the buildings don't have roofs 3020 01:50:58,229 --> 01:50:56,800 so on the administration's worlds you 3021 01:50:59,270 --> 01:50:58,239 can walk around the edge of it and look 3022 01:51:02,550 --> 01:50:59,280 down and 3023 01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:02,560 watch the beings working 3024 01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:06,400 down below you without roofs the planets 3025 01:51:09,430 --> 01:51:07,840 are artificial and they're artificially 3026 01:51:12,870 --> 01:51:09,440 heated and there's no rain 3027 01:51:16,470 --> 01:51:12,880 water all comes from the underneath 3028 01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:16,480 and there's ten ten types of life on 3029 01:51:19,350 --> 01:51:17,760 those worlds 3030 01:51:21,669 --> 01:51:19,360 it's the three of them we would identify 3031 01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:21,679 as animal and three is plant and the 3032 01:51:27,990 --> 01:51:24,400 rest we wouldn't have a clue 3033 01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:28,000 what man that's crazy 3034 01:51:31,669 --> 01:51:30,880 that's so fun that's so fun yeah you 3035 01:51:33,430 --> 01:51:31,679 know 3036 01:51:35,030 --> 01:51:33,440 all of you hurt like if you've seen or 3037 01:51:38,390 --> 01:51:35,040 heard stories about the 3038 01:51:40,070 --> 01:51:38,400 this possible uh unknown species of 3039 01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:40,080 animal that might be flying flying 3040 01:51:43,990 --> 01:51:41,679 around in our upper atmosphere 3041 01:51:45,510 --> 01:51:44,000 fear in in the earth and that could be 3042 01:51:47,109 --> 01:51:45,520 one of the explanations 3043 01:51:48,790 --> 01:51:47,119 does that sound like fooey to you 3044 01:51:50,310 --> 01:51:48,800 because i don't know man 3045 01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:50,320 it sounds like maybe just we haven't 3046 01:51:53,589 --> 01:51:51,920 discovered it yet and maybe 3047 01:51:56,310 --> 01:51:53,599 well here's another interesting thing 3048 01:51:59,669 --> 01:51:56,320 that the update says 3049 01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:59,679 apparently bigfoot is real there's a 3050 01:52:02,470 --> 01:52:00,159 section 3051 01:52:03,189 --> 01:52:02,480 discussing the animal life on our planet 3052 01:52:06,229 --> 01:52:03,199 and this is 3053 01:52:10,149 --> 01:52:06,239 a number of species that are on 3054 01:52:13,109 --> 01:52:10,159 yet undetected but they they're they 3055 01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:13,119 well they got caught in them they didn't 3056 01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:16,480 get enough intelligence to become human 3057 01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:18,320 they got stopped elusive rebellion 3058 01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:20,719 stopped all the progress on our planet 3059 01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:22,080 and so they're kind of just lost 3060 01:52:26,950 --> 01:52:24,560 creatures in time they're very shy 3061 01:52:28,709 --> 01:52:26,960 and they don't like to make their 3062 01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:28,719 presence known 3063 01:52:33,750 --> 01:52:30,560 but i think i've been in contact with 3064 01:52:35,589 --> 01:52:33,760 one as the caveman of atomic city i was 3065 01:52:38,390 --> 01:52:35,599 camped out on the mountain above 3066 01:52:39,109 --> 01:52:38,400 los alamos in the middle of the winter 3067 01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:39,119 and 3068 01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:42,000 night after night these weird melodies 3069 01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:42,960 played 3070 01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:45,199 like somebody blowing through a pipe 3071 01:52:47,669 --> 01:52:46,800 there was just three or four notes that 3072 01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:47,679 didn't really sound 3073 01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:50,800 human but it played over and over and my 3074 01:52:54,229 --> 01:52:51,760 native friends 3075 01:52:56,390 --> 01:52:54,239 have heard the same thing and i went out 3076 01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:56,400 in the daytime i searched 3077 01:53:01,109 --> 01:52:58,719 there was there's nobody been there i 3078 01:53:02,790 --> 01:53:01,119 was miles from any civilization there 3079 01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:02,800 was 3080 01:53:07,189 --> 01:53:05,040 just nothing to make it and so the ms 3081 01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:07,199 mountains where i live 3082 01:53:11,589 --> 01:53:10,000 then the natives say that they live here 3083 01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:11,599 it says they can make fire and they're 3084 01:53:16,229 --> 01:53:13,760 just caught in time they're just 3085 01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:16,239 not quite intelligent enough to be human 3086 01:53:21,430 --> 01:53:17,760 but they're intelligent enough 3087 01:53:23,990 --> 01:53:21,440 to keep going yeah i'm trying 3088 01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:24,000 man that is so interesting we've had a 3089 01:53:28,229 --> 01:53:25,760 guest on before that has uh shared with 3090 01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:28,239 us some audio recordings of 3091 01:53:31,990 --> 01:53:29,920 what sounds maybe similar to what you're 3092 01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:32,000 describing it it's like 3093 01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:34,480 three or four notes and it sounds like 3094 01:53:37,910 --> 01:53:36,080 like like a flute whistle 3095 01:53:39,910 --> 01:53:37,920 off in the distance yeah it's pretty 3096 01:53:42,709 --> 01:53:39,920 eerie sounding i'm trying to find it 3097 01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:42,719 right now so i can play it for you 3098 01:53:46,629 --> 01:53:44,560 well i definitely heard that night after 3099 01:53:49,669 --> 01:53:46,639 night i was camping three foot of snow 3100 01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:49,679 up on the mountain and then the forest 3101 01:53:53,189 --> 01:53:51,440 service finally found me 3102 01:53:55,030 --> 01:53:53,199 they said it came down from above to 3103 01:53:56,950 --> 01:53:55,040 find me and get me out of the forest 3104 01:53:59,510 --> 01:53:56,960 [Laughter] 3105 01:54:01,430 --> 01:53:59,520 oh man the guy came up to my tent with 3106 01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:01,440 his gun drawn and 3107 01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:08,229 we had bigfoot right next to you playing 3108 01:54:11,189 --> 01:54:09,360 a flute 3109 01:54:12,470 --> 01:54:11,199 and then some human [\h__\h] comes up 3110 01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:12,480 with a gun in your face 3111 01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:16,000 yeah and they're the animals 3112 01:54:21,030 --> 01:54:19,119 humans are not we still have a long ways 3113 01:54:22,950 --> 01:54:21,040 to go 3114 01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:22,960 we're not too much smarter than in the 3115 01:54:28,229 --> 01:54:25,199 time of jesus you know 3116 01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:28,239 yeah yeah somebody asked um do other 3117 01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:30,000 religions play a part in this or 3118 01:54:36,070 --> 01:54:33,599 just like jesus and like well actually 3119 01:54:40,310 --> 01:54:36,080 all the religions of earth are discussed 3120 01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,430 how long was it 3121 01:54:49,990 --> 01:54:46,790 about 1200 years before 3122 01:54:53,669 --> 01:54:50,000 jesus the world was losing the concept 3123 01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:53,679 of one god and so macaventia milk she's 3124 01:54:57,830 --> 01:54:54,719 a dick 3125 01:54:59,830 --> 01:54:57,840 he came he materialized on our planet 3126 01:55:00,870 --> 01:54:59,840 it's written in the bible melchizedek 3127 01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:00,880 it's called 3128 01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:04,000 and he um he was a teacher of abraham 3129 01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:06,480 but he was also the teacher of many more 3130 01:55:12,149 --> 01:55:08,560 he sent his disciples around the world 3131 01:55:13,669 --> 01:55:12,159 and buddhism hinduism zoroaster 3132 01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:13,679 all those have their basis in his 3133 01:55:17,669 --> 01:55:15,760 teachings and there's a whole section in 3134 01:55:19,270 --> 01:55:17,679 the urantia book that goes through 3135 01:55:21,589 --> 01:55:19,280 what those different religions believed 3136 01:55:23,109 --> 01:55:21,599 at that time and most of you think were 3137 01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:23,119 christian if you looked 3138 01:55:26,390 --> 01:55:24,480 you'd think it was christian thoughts 3139 01:55:28,709 --> 01:55:26,400 that they what they believed 3140 01:55:29,430 --> 01:55:28,719 so all the world's religions are based 3141 01:55:32,870 --> 01:55:29,440 on milk 3142 01:55:34,229 --> 01:55:32,880 jesudix of those that could 3143 01:55:36,070 --> 01:55:34,239 could learn more he taught more and 3144 01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:36,080 those that could learn less he he taught 3145 01:55:41,430 --> 01:55:38,159 a simpler version of things 3146 01:55:43,990 --> 01:55:41,440 and so abraham was his main student 3147 01:55:46,070 --> 01:55:44,000 and abraham became the you know the 3148 01:55:48,229 --> 01:55:46,080 founder of the jewish religion 3149 01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:48,239 and i guess the what's considered a 3150 01:55:53,350 --> 01:55:50,560 christian and the muslim also 3151 01:55:54,709 --> 01:55:53,360 right yeah so all those religions are 3152 01:55:57,109 --> 01:55:54,719 covered in there 3153 01:55:58,950 --> 01:55:57,119 um in quite some detail and even jesus 3154 01:56:02,390 --> 01:55:58,960 talks about buddha 3155 01:56:03,910 --> 01:56:02,400 he said buddha took his religious ship 3156 01:56:06,550 --> 01:56:03,920 all the way into the harbor but didn't 3157 01:56:08,790 --> 01:56:06,560 go ashore he didn't have a god 3158 01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:08,800 he had everything but the one but a one 3159 01:56:12,070 --> 01:56:10,000 god 3160 01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:12,080 so all of his followers are all stuck on 3161 01:56:18,149 --> 01:56:14,560 a ship right outside the harbor 3162 01:56:20,629 --> 01:56:18,159 oh they're within sight of salvation 3163 01:56:22,149 --> 01:56:20,639 and they're still stuck on the ship i 3164 01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:22,159 i've always had like 3165 01:56:26,229 --> 01:56:24,560 this this curiosity and maybe just like 3166 01:56:28,950 --> 01:56:26,239 a wish that all the 3167 01:56:29,430 --> 01:56:28,960 earthly religions all stem from one 3168 01:56:31,350 --> 01:56:29,440 place 3169 01:56:32,870 --> 01:56:31,360 like there's some truth to almost 3170 01:56:34,470 --> 01:56:32,880 everything you know 3171 01:56:36,310 --> 01:56:34,480 yeah i don't know i just i just love 3172 01:56:39,910 --> 01:56:36,320 that idea and like each civil 3173 01:56:44,390 --> 01:56:39,920 each uh continent or religion has 3174 01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:44,400 paper one 133 in the rancho book 3175 01:56:47,430 --> 01:56:46,159 discusses all of those and how they came 3176 01:56:50,709 --> 01:56:47,440 about 3177 01:56:52,390 --> 01:56:50,719 and paper 1 21 discusses all the 3178 01:56:53,589 --> 01:56:52,400 religions of the time of jesus what the 3179 01:56:56,550 --> 01:56:53,599 different people 3180 01:56:58,870 --> 01:56:56,560 what they believed what was going on and 3181 01:57:02,709 --> 01:56:58,880 then you'd find paper 144 interesting it 3182 01:57:05,030 --> 01:57:02,719 lists a number of alien prayers in there 3183 01:57:07,189 --> 01:57:05,040 people in jesus time was always wanting 3184 01:57:08,790 --> 01:57:07,199 to hear a prayer 3185 01:57:10,629 --> 01:57:08,800 jesus tried to teach them just to talk 3186 01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:10,639 to god like a person he didn't want you 3187 01:57:14,550 --> 01:57:12,719 to repeat the same prayer over 3188 01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:14,560 and the lord's prayer came about because 3189 01:57:17,510 --> 01:57:16,000 he was trying to teach his brothers and 3190 01:57:19,350 --> 01:57:17,520 sisters a prayer 3191 01:57:21,189 --> 01:57:19,360 and they never could they he'd just give 3192 01:57:22,470 --> 01:57:21,199 him a one sentence 3193 01:57:24,310 --> 01:57:22,480 and hope they'd finished it but they 3194 01:57:25,990 --> 01:57:24,320 just added them together and made the 3195 01:57:27,910 --> 01:57:26,000 lord's prayer 3196 01:57:29,589 --> 01:57:27,920 so he taught other prayers too there's 3197 01:57:31,109 --> 01:57:29,599 some really beautiful ones from other 3198 01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:31,119 worlds 3199 01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:35,360 cool 144. 3200 01:57:38,709 --> 01:57:37,360 what i want to know what do they what 3201 01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:38,719 they say man that's 3202 01:57:45,670 --> 01:57:42,400 so that's so interesting i love that 3203 01:57:46,870 --> 01:57:45,680 somebody was asking uh uh hmm 3204 01:57:48,470 --> 01:57:46,880 [Music] 3205 01:57:49,910 --> 01:57:48,480 oh that's yeah that's a really good one 3206 01:57:52,470 --> 01:57:49,920 dude louis uh 3207 01:57:53,750 --> 01:57:52,480 coming in with a great questions uh so 3208 01:57:54,390 --> 01:57:53,760 yeah what are your thoughts on the 3209 01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:54,400 pyramid 3210 01:58:01,189 --> 01:57:59,440 maybe not how they were built but 3211 01:58:03,030 --> 01:58:01,199 well i think they were built by humans 3212 01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:03,040 but they ran your book those 3213 01:58:06,390 --> 01:58:05,440 mentions it tells the religion of the 3214 01:58:08,550 --> 01:58:06,400 people 3215 01:58:10,790 --> 01:58:08,560 and the fact that i don't know when 3216 01:58:12,629 --> 01:58:10,800 mankind discovered it but there's a 3217 01:58:14,390 --> 01:58:12,639 there's a tunnel that goes points 3218 01:58:17,430 --> 01:58:14,400 towards the north star 3219 01:58:19,030 --> 01:58:17,440 it goes into the middle chambers mankind 3220 01:58:19,669 --> 01:58:19,040 discovered in the 70s or 80s or 3221 01:58:21,430 --> 01:58:19,679 something 3222 01:58:22,950 --> 01:58:21,440 but that's mentioned and it tells how it 3223 01:58:24,870 --> 01:58:22,960 fits into religion 3224 01:58:26,629 --> 01:58:24,880 it also says that if things have been a 3225 01:58:28,709 --> 01:58:26,639 little different jesus would have come 3226 01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:28,719 in 3227 01:58:36,470 --> 01:58:34,560 to the jews they had some very spiritual 3228 01:58:38,390 --> 01:58:36,480 concepts and some of their rulers 3229 01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:38,400 believed in the one god and taught a 3230 01:58:42,629 --> 01:58:40,239 very true religion 3231 01:58:43,910 --> 01:58:42,639 but student common went back to the old 3232 01:58:47,189 --> 01:58:43,920 ways 3233 01:58:49,270 --> 01:58:47,199 and they deteriorated in their belief in 3234 01:58:50,629 --> 01:58:49,280 one god and that's why 3235 01:58:52,709 --> 01:58:50,639 the jews were picked as the most 3236 01:58:56,310 --> 01:58:52,719 advanced religion for jesus to come 3237 01:58:59,750 --> 01:58:56,320 into but jesus almost came to the nile 3238 01:59:03,109 --> 01:59:01,350 that's super interesting it makes sense 3239 01:59:05,030 --> 01:59:03,119 yeah that kind of does get kind of cool 3240 01:59:06,470 --> 01:59:05,040 i mean yeah that makes me think of this 3241 01:59:09,589 --> 01:59:06,480 this idea uh well 3242 01:59:13,669 --> 01:59:09,599 the the library of alexandria um 3243 01:59:15,270 --> 01:59:13,679 that is well jesus visited it and it's 3244 01:59:18,310 --> 01:59:15,280 talked about quite a bit and matter of 3245 01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:18,320 fact paper 160 and 161 3246 01:59:21,990 --> 01:59:19,840 are the only two papers apparently 3247 01:59:24,390 --> 01:59:22,000 written by immortal on earth 3248 01:59:25,669 --> 01:59:24,400 and they're the thoughts of rodin of 3249 01:59:27,270 --> 01:59:25,679 alexandria 3250 01:59:29,189 --> 01:59:27,280 which i think may be the greatest 3251 01:59:31,589 --> 01:59:29,199 philosopher the earth has had 3252 01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:31,599 but he's not mentioned in any earth book 3253 01:59:35,270 --> 01:59:33,360 his all of his works was destroyed in 3254 01:59:36,950 --> 01:59:35,280 the alexandria library 3255 01:59:38,629 --> 01:59:36,960 when it was destroyed when it's torn 3256 01:59:40,390 --> 01:59:38,639 apart and so 3257 01:59:42,149 --> 01:59:40,400 there's no earth records of his 3258 01:59:43,990 --> 01:59:42,159 philosophy 3259 01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:44,000 but yet two papers in a ranch book are 3260 01:59:47,830 --> 01:59:46,320 devoted to it because he came to jesus 3261 01:59:49,910 --> 01:59:47,840 to unify his philosophy with the 3262 01:59:51,830 --> 01:59:49,920 teachings of jesus and he was probably 3263 01:59:52,310 --> 01:59:51,840 one of only three people on the earth 3264 01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:52,320 that ever 3265 01:59:56,070 --> 01:59:53,920 actually understood what jesus was 3266 01:59:59,430 --> 01:59:56,080 saying 3267 02:00:01,109 --> 01:59:59,440 dude interesting ernest anderson we're 3268 02:00:03,750 --> 02:00:01,119 talking about the urantia book 3269 02:00:04,229 --> 02:00:03,760 your ranch a book for anybody who's new 3270 02:00:06,550 --> 02:00:04,239 up in the 3271 02:00:07,350 --> 02:00:06,560 in the chat right now uh and you missed 3272 02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:07,360 the beginning half 3273 02:00:10,950 --> 02:00:09,520 we're talking about we're talking about 3274 02:00:12,550 --> 02:00:10,960 the rancho book we're talking about 3275 02:00:14,550 --> 02:00:12,560 aliens we're talking about 3276 02:00:15,990 --> 02:00:14,560 bigfoot we're talking about everything 3277 02:00:18,229 --> 02:00:16,000 and how it's all connected 3278 02:00:19,589 --> 02:00:18,239 kind of to this book yeah it's got all 3279 02:00:21,030 --> 02:00:19,599 the answers right 3280 02:00:23,669 --> 02:00:21,040 well that's how you know it's a true 3281 02:00:26,390 --> 02:00:23,679 revelation from god is because it unites 3282 02:00:28,870 --> 02:00:26,400 every human concept into one thing 3283 02:00:31,910 --> 02:00:28,880 religion spirituality cosmology 3284 02:00:34,950 --> 02:00:31,920 science spirituality 3285 02:00:36,070 --> 02:00:34,960 psychology earth history universe 3286 02:00:37,830 --> 02:00:36,080 history 3287 02:00:40,310 --> 02:00:37,840 and the life and teachings of jesus are 3288 02:00:42,070 --> 02:00:40,320 all integrated into a single viewpoint 3289 02:00:45,030 --> 02:00:42,080 it all goes together and makes one 3290 02:00:52,070 --> 02:00:49,910 dude okay wow somebody says 3291 02:00:54,070 --> 02:00:52,080 the white book is available as a 3292 02:00:55,189 --> 02:00:54,080 download and it tells how the thing got 3293 02:00:58,870 --> 02:00:55,199 started how the 3294 02:01:03,030 --> 02:00:58,880 the books were printed in the process 3295 02:01:06,870 --> 02:01:03,040 the black book is the one that has the 3296 02:01:10,950 --> 02:01:09,189 and it says the number three because 3297 02:01:12,470 --> 02:01:10,960 it's the third book right joe is telling 3298 02:01:13,830 --> 02:01:12,480 me that it's it's the third book of the 3299 02:01:15,430 --> 02:01:13,840 bible 3300 02:01:17,030 --> 02:01:15,440 that's that was the assumption that i 3301 02:01:17,270 --> 02:01:17,040 made like we're gonna talk it like in 3302 02:01:25,030 --> 02:01:17,280 the 3303 02:01:26,709 --> 02:01:25,040 next 3304 02:01:29,350 --> 02:01:26,719 few hundred years presenting us with 3305 02:01:32,629 --> 02:01:29,360 revelations as they're needed 3306 02:01:33,350 --> 02:01:32,639 but we don't know um how long that's 3307 02:01:36,550 --> 02:01:33,360 continuing 3308 02:01:38,629 --> 02:01:36,560 the present person what he did was he 3309 02:01:41,270 --> 02:01:38,639 was able to fuse with the god within 3310 02:01:42,870 --> 02:01:41,280 he became so spiritual that he fused 3311 02:01:45,430 --> 02:01:42,880 with a god within 3312 02:01:47,109 --> 02:01:45,440 normally that happens at death and 3313 02:01:47,750 --> 02:01:47,119 you're translated to heaven you don't 3314 02:01:50,790 --> 02:01:47,760 even die 3315 02:01:52,390 --> 02:01:50,800 if you do that but in certain situations 3316 02:01:53,270 --> 02:01:52,400 they can allow someone to stay on the 3317 02:01:56,470 --> 02:01:53,280 planet 3318 02:01:58,310 --> 02:01:56,480 it says for administrative purposes 3319 02:01:59,750 --> 02:01:58,320 and so if they've achieved all they 3320 02:02:00,149 --> 02:01:59,760 wanted to achieve with these three books 3321 02:02:03,430 --> 02:02:00,159 then 3322 02:02:06,310 --> 02:02:03,440 he's probably not gone 3323 02:02:10,550 --> 02:02:06,320 um um i wrote him a couple days ago and 3324 02:02:14,470 --> 02:02:13,030 the internet the internet's not so good 3325 02:02:17,430 --> 02:02:14,480 the internet connection is 3326 02:02:19,510 --> 02:02:17,440 pretty terrible on the different planes 3327 02:02:23,030 --> 02:02:19,520 yeah 3328 02:02:27,910 --> 02:02:23,040 that's so crazy 3329 02:02:32,390 --> 02:02:30,550 that for several years that's that's the 3330 02:02:35,830 --> 02:02:32,400 substance that the 3331 02:02:37,030 --> 02:02:35,840 mind yeah and then molecular the mining 3332 02:02:38,310 --> 02:02:37,040 planet 3333 02:02:39,830 --> 02:02:38,320 and by the way that's another 3334 02:02:40,950 --> 02:02:39,840 interesting thing i think and then the 3335 02:02:44,070 --> 02:02:40,960 zetas is this 3336 02:02:45,189 --> 02:02:44,080 other paper is um there's always been a 3337 02:02:48,229 --> 02:02:45,199 story that there's a 3338 02:02:49,430 --> 02:02:48,239 research center at dulce new mexico and 3339 02:02:51,109 --> 02:02:49,440 there's been a story that there's a 3340 02:02:54,310 --> 02:02:51,119 tunnel between los alamos 3341 02:02:54,709 --> 02:02:54,320 and dulce and i never did really believe 3342 02:02:56,390 --> 02:02:54,719 that 3343 02:02:58,629 --> 02:02:56,400 because i didn't think we could dig a 3344 02:03:00,550 --> 02:02:58,639 tunnel like that but now we learn that 3345 02:03:02,870 --> 02:03:00,560 the zetas are miners 3346 02:03:04,070 --> 02:03:02,880 they mine thousands of miles deep into a 3347 02:03:06,470 --> 02:03:04,080 planet 3348 02:03:07,910 --> 02:03:06,480 with their scenery it would be nothing 3349 02:03:10,629 --> 02:03:07,920 for them to drill a 3350 02:03:12,629 --> 02:03:10,639 hole from los alamos and i can show you 3351 02:03:16,070 --> 02:03:12,639 places where there's just wires going to 3352 02:03:19,990 --> 02:03:18,070 and there's a known system of tunnels in 3353 02:03:21,430 --> 02:03:20,000 los alamos that's been made public in 3354 02:03:23,510 --> 02:03:21,440 recent years 3355 02:03:24,950 --> 02:03:23,520 that was made during the war this giant 3356 02:03:27,189 --> 02:03:24,960 chamber in our 3357 02:03:29,109 --> 02:03:27,199 city apparently big enough to play at 3358 02:03:32,070 --> 02:03:29,119 least one football game 3359 02:03:34,790 --> 02:03:32,080 wow and um with the first nuclear 3360 02:03:38,550 --> 02:03:34,800 reactor in los alamos was placed 3361 02:03:40,870 --> 02:03:38,560 right again like why los alamos it's the 3362 02:03:45,750 --> 02:03:40,880 perfect town to do it in man like 3363 02:03:48,550 --> 02:03:46,950 yeah you can't even hardly see it 3364 02:03:49,669 --> 02:03:48,560 although i have a picture from an 3365 02:03:51,270 --> 02:03:49,679 airplane that shows 3366 02:03:53,270 --> 02:03:51,280 and i've been down there you can see the 3367 02:03:57,030 --> 02:03:53,280 entrance there's two entrances that are 3368 02:03:58,390 --> 02:03:57,040 big enough to drive a semi truck in 3369 02:04:00,310 --> 02:03:58,400 and when they were cleaning up the 3370 02:04:02,310 --> 02:04:00,320 nuclear reactor stuff i watched for 3371 02:04:05,109 --> 02:04:02,320 weeks as ever 10 minutes 3372 02:04:08,310 --> 02:04:05,119 a truck of a semi truck would come out 3373 02:04:10,629 --> 02:04:08,320 loaded with big rocks in it 3374 02:04:13,030 --> 02:04:10,639 so they were weeks on end they was 3375 02:04:14,950 --> 02:04:13,040 cleaning up all the radiation thing 3376 02:04:16,629 --> 02:04:14,960 material apparently extracting it and 3377 02:04:19,189 --> 02:04:16,639 taking them out 3378 02:04:20,229 --> 02:04:19,199 i wonder where they were taking that i 3379 02:04:22,470 --> 02:04:20,239 don't know 3380 02:04:23,510 --> 02:04:22,480 be careful what that dude it was right 3381 02:04:25,109 --> 02:04:23,520 below my cave 3382 02:04:28,390 --> 02:04:25,119 when i was in my cave and i could just 3383 02:04:31,669 --> 02:04:28,400 watch them drive by 3384 02:04:33,270 --> 02:04:31,679 mike the caveman dude i love that is it 3385 02:04:35,589 --> 02:04:33,280 would you would you consider it being an 3386 02:04:36,629 --> 02:04:35,599 earth ship your your cave in the desert 3387 02:04:39,750 --> 02:04:36,639 there 3388 02:04:40,870 --> 02:04:39,760 yeah i was um off the grid i had a solar 3389 02:04:43,350 --> 02:04:40,880 system 3390 02:04:44,709 --> 02:04:43,360 like i said i was about to add a um 3391 02:04:46,790 --> 02:04:44,719 satellite internet 3392 02:04:48,229 --> 02:04:46,800 i calculated had enough energy i could i 3393 02:04:52,149 --> 02:04:48,239 could be on the internet for about an 3394 02:04:54,310 --> 02:04:52,159 hour a day 3395 02:04:56,149 --> 02:04:54,320 awesome you i don't know i mean the 3396 02:04:57,589 --> 02:04:56,159 earth battery thing i just learned about 3397 02:05:01,430 --> 02:04:57,599 this thing i mean uh 3398 02:05:05,109 --> 02:05:03,030 it's pretty interesting it's it's the 3399 02:05:06,310 --> 02:05:05,119 same physics as a baghdad battery you 3400 02:05:08,149 --> 02:05:06,320 basically uh 3401 02:05:10,069 --> 02:05:08,159 so i guess people have figured it out i 3402 02:05:10,629 --> 02:05:10,079 mean if you search earth battery on on 3403 02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:10,639 youtube 3404 02:05:14,470 --> 02:05:13,920 as long as you uh uh so it started out 3405 02:05:16,950 --> 02:05:14,480 as 3406 02:05:17,990 --> 02:05:16,960 little circles in in the dirt like if 3407 02:05:21,109 --> 02:05:18,000 you dig up 3408 02:05:23,669 --> 02:05:21,119 a pile of dirt and then you pour water 3409 02:05:24,310 --> 02:05:23,679 into the or you have loose dirt right 3410 02:05:26,950 --> 02:05:24,320 and then you 3411 02:05:27,750 --> 02:05:26,960 pour water into that and have zinc and 3412 02:05:30,149 --> 02:05:27,760 copper 3413 02:05:31,990 --> 02:05:30,159 connected to another dirt pile you're 3414 02:05:34,629 --> 02:05:32,000 basically 3415 02:05:36,310 --> 02:05:34,639 anode and cathode with with the i guess 3416 02:05:37,589 --> 02:05:36,320 there's there's minerals and heavy 3417 02:05:41,750 --> 02:05:37,599 metals and soil 3418 02:05:44,790 --> 02:05:41,760 so that acidic uh uh interaction between 3419 02:05:48,470 --> 02:05:44,800 between the metals it's it's very low 3420 02:05:49,270 --> 02:05:48,480 uh low amperage but yeah you can get up 3421 02:05:50,790 --> 02:05:49,280 till 3422 02:05:52,629 --> 02:05:50,800 i've seen a couple videos where people 3423 02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:52,639 got like six or seven volts which is 3424 02:05:55,990 --> 02:05:53,840 enough to charge 3425 02:05:56,870 --> 02:05:56,000 uh a regular like rechargeable battery 3426 02:05:59,189 --> 02:05:56,880 that's like 3427 02:05:59,910 --> 02:05:59,199 acid battery or lithium ion super 3428 02:06:02,870 --> 02:05:59,920 interesting stuff 3429 02:06:03,910 --> 02:06:02,880 these are by just a little solder cell 3430 02:06:09,109 --> 02:06:03,920 yeah 3431 02:06:09,430 --> 02:06:09,119 way to link them all up man you'd have 3432 02:06:15,910 --> 02:06:09,440 like 3433 02:06:17,270 --> 02:06:15,920 so many of them but i just love that 3434 02:06:18,069 --> 02:06:17,280 well you know you can make one out of a 3435 02:06:20,310 --> 02:06:18,079 lemon 3436 02:06:22,069 --> 02:06:20,320 number of things you just need certain 3437 02:06:23,990 --> 02:06:22,079 ingredients 3438 02:06:26,870 --> 02:06:24,000 yeah yeah potato potato i don't see how 3439 02:06:28,790 --> 02:06:26,880 that solves any human problems though 3440 02:06:30,709 --> 02:06:28,800 yeah like there's a bunch of little 3441 02:06:32,709 --> 02:06:30,719 holes all over the place 3442 02:06:34,229 --> 02:06:32,719 storm solar energy yeah that's where you 3443 02:06:36,310 --> 02:06:34,239 call the the zetas to dig 3444 02:06:37,830 --> 02:06:36,320 some holes for you man that's oh yeah we 3445 02:06:39,430 --> 02:06:37,840 know space yeah well 3446 02:06:41,750 --> 02:06:39,440 it says on montcumbria they're doing the 3447 02:06:43,189 --> 02:06:41,760 smart thing they use solar energy 3448 02:06:45,109 --> 02:06:43,199 and then when they need combustibles 3449 02:06:46,470 --> 02:06:45,119 they make hydrogen from water using 3450 02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:46,480 solar energy 3451 02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:48,239 i've been preaching it for decades i've 3452 02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:50,560 got videos on my 3453 02:06:55,750 --> 02:06:54,239 channel about it that's the way to store 3454 02:06:57,589 --> 02:06:55,760 energy it's a universal 3455 02:06:59,430 --> 02:06:57,599 energy you can work in any engine that's 3456 02:07:02,709 --> 02:06:59,440 ever been made 3457 02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:02,719 it produces snow pollution that conveys 3458 02:07:07,030 --> 02:07:05,679 in an infant cycle from water you use 3459 02:07:08,709 --> 02:07:07,040 sunlight to separate the 3460 02:07:10,149 --> 02:07:08,719 hydrogen and the oxygen you store them 3461 02:07:12,470 --> 02:07:10,159 burn them back together 3462 02:07:14,149 --> 02:07:12,480 you run generators or cars or trucks or 3463 02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:14,159 whatever you want from them 3464 02:07:18,229 --> 02:07:15,840 and everybody can make their own fuel 3465 02:07:21,109 --> 02:07:18,239 and you wouldn't have to 3466 02:07:21,669 --> 02:07:21,119 rely on somebody else to make your fuel 3467 02:07:26,629 --> 02:07:21,679 yeah 3468 02:07:28,629 --> 02:07:26,639 well don't go another 3469 02:07:30,310 --> 02:07:28,639 i i'm going to sign up for that class 3470 02:07:33,350 --> 02:07:30,320 but i mean i'm just saying 3471 02:07:33,910 --> 02:07:33,360 don't don't go to apply for any uh uh 3472 02:07:35,189 --> 02:07:33,920 patent 3473 02:07:37,589 --> 02:07:35,199 because you might get a knock at your 3474 02:07:40,870 --> 02:07:37,599 door and you know i don't know 3475 02:07:42,790 --> 02:07:40,880 i mean i give away everything i do 3476 02:07:44,950 --> 02:07:42,800 freely 3477 02:07:46,550 --> 02:07:44,960 you that's people stole my ideas over 3478 02:07:48,229 --> 02:07:46,560 the years and i'm glad they've got them 3479 02:07:50,229 --> 02:07:48,239 i don't care 3480 02:07:56,149 --> 02:07:50,239 it's my job as a philosopher to have new 3481 02:08:01,830 --> 02:08:00,149 idea that's fine with me good right yeah 3482 02:08:03,830 --> 02:08:01,840 actually it goes back to a guy named 3483 02:08:05,189 --> 02:08:03,840 harry braun who in the 70s realized we'd 3484 02:08:06,870 --> 02:08:05,199 have a problem 3485 02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:06,880 and and began working out what the 3486 02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:08,320 solution was 3487 02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:10,480 he's been trying to get it recognized 3488 02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:11,840 ever since he's actually run for 3489 02:08:17,109 --> 02:08:13,280 president 3490 02:08:19,669 --> 02:08:17,119 virtually over time on a platform of 3491 02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:19,679 converting our whole economy to hydrogen 3492 02:08:23,669 --> 02:08:20,800 before the 3493 02:08:25,589 --> 02:08:23,679 afghanistan war he had a three trillion 3494 02:08:27,430 --> 02:08:25,599 dollar plan to convert all of america to 3495 02:08:30,229 --> 02:08:27,440 hydrogen and would be totally energy 3496 02:08:31,430 --> 02:08:30,239 independent forever but instead we went 3497 02:08:34,629 --> 02:08:31,440 and bombed people for three 3498 02:08:35,750 --> 02:08:34,639 trillion dollars and we're still burning 3499 02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:35,760 gasoline 3500 02:08:39,350 --> 02:08:37,840 yeah that's not cool and a gallon of 3501 02:08:42,550 --> 02:08:39,360 gasoline is 87 3502 02:08:43,990 --> 02:08:42,560 carbon has 5.5 pounds of carbon 3503 02:08:47,109 --> 02:08:44,000 every time you burn a gallon you're 3504 02:08:48,950 --> 02:08:47,119 dropping 5.5 pounds of car turds on the 3505 02:08:52,390 --> 02:08:48,960 road 3506 02:08:54,550 --> 02:08:52,400 whoa that's a lot of cartridges a lot of 3507 02:08:57,030 --> 02:08:54,560 carpet blue man 3508 02:08:58,950 --> 02:08:57,040 i don't know i like that term i'm gonna 3509 02:09:00,390 --> 02:08:58,960 start using that one cartridge 3510 02:09:02,629 --> 02:09:00,400 and the car could be converted to 3511 02:09:12,709 --> 02:09:02,639 hydrogen and then it would be totally 3512 02:09:12,719 --> 02:09:16,830 his website is 3513 02:09:19,830 --> 02:09:17,990 phoenixprojectfoundation.us 3514 02:09:22,550 --> 02:09:19,840 and he's got a picture on there of henry 3515 02:09:24,069 --> 02:09:22,560 ford beating on a fender of a car made 3516 02:09:26,069 --> 02:09:24,079 from hemp 3517 02:09:27,510 --> 02:09:26,079 and it's powered by hydrogen also made 3518 02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:27,520 from him 3519 02:09:43,550 --> 02:09:41,510 he said when your car wears out just 3520 02:09:46,870 --> 02:09:43,560 bury it 3521 02:09:48,950 --> 02:09:46,880 yeah yeah 3522 02:09:50,229 --> 02:09:48,960 it's just it's just got to go fast right 3523 02:09:51,589 --> 02:09:50,239 that's that's the whole thing it's got 3524 02:09:53,350 --> 02:09:51,599 to go fast 3525 02:09:55,030 --> 02:09:53,360 people always assume that you can't make 3526 02:09:58,149 --> 02:09:55,040 it go fast but 3527 02:09:59,589 --> 02:09:58,159 obviously you can yeah 3528 02:10:01,189 --> 02:09:59,599 well we could probably recycle all that 3529 02:10:04,229 --> 02:10:01,199 material too 3530 02:10:05,669 --> 02:10:04,239 yeah totally totally let's see yeah 3531 02:10:06,310 --> 02:10:05,679 there's been a lot of solutions and 3532 02:10:08,950 --> 02:10:06,320 we've just 3533 02:10:09,910 --> 02:10:08,960 taken ignorant courses for humanity 3534 02:10:11,430 --> 02:10:09,920 we've 3535 02:10:13,830 --> 02:10:11,440 always taken the course that made the 3536 02:10:16,390 --> 02:10:13,840 most money for a few people 3537 02:10:18,149 --> 02:10:16,400 not what was best for the most people 3538 02:10:21,189 --> 02:10:18,159 and battery cars were 3539 02:10:22,709 --> 02:10:21,199 popular before at the same time 3540 02:10:25,750 --> 02:10:22,719 gasoline was coming out we could have 3541 02:10:28,950 --> 02:10:25,760 had a whole generation of battery cars 3542 02:10:31,109 --> 02:10:28,960 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah truck turns 3543 02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:31,119 yeah well that 2001 can be converted to 3544 02:10:34,390 --> 02:10:31,890 hydrogen 3545 02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:34,400 [Laughter] 3546 02:10:37,430 --> 02:10:37,119 yeah man but i mean at the same time 3547 02:10:40,790 --> 02:10:37,440 like 3548 02:10:41,350 --> 02:10:40,800 i mean batteries batteries aren't 3549 02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:41,360 exactly 3550 02:10:47,030 --> 02:10:44,560 awesome right i mean oh hydrogen 3551 02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:47,040 yeah you can fill up a hydrogen tank 3552 02:10:51,270 --> 02:10:48,880 about as fast as a gasoline tank 3553 02:10:52,629 --> 02:10:51,280 have the same range produce no pollution 3554 02:10:56,149 --> 02:10:52,639 and not have any 3555 02:10:59,270 --> 02:10:56,159 any problems that's pretty awesome 3556 02:10:59,750 --> 02:10:59,280 uh there was a guy that i was looking 3557 02:11:02,950 --> 02:10:59,760 into 3558 02:11:05,830 --> 02:11:02,960 a while back uh what was his name uh 3559 02:11:08,310 --> 02:11:05,840 jacques fresco he was he had talked 3560 02:11:10,069 --> 02:11:08,320 about the uh the venus project or 3561 02:11:11,669 --> 02:11:10,079 project venus have you ever heard about 3562 02:11:14,149 --> 02:11:11,679 that no 3563 02:11:15,270 --> 02:11:14,159 it's pretty interesting he he's he did a 3564 02:11:17,750 --> 02:11:15,280 lot of studies 3565 02:11:18,790 --> 02:11:17,760 like uh uh he followed like buckminster 3566 02:11:21,270 --> 02:11:18,800 fuller 3567 02:11:23,189 --> 02:11:21,280 really closely and did a lot of you know 3568 02:11:25,030 --> 02:11:23,199 engineering and stuff like that social 3569 02:11:26,629 --> 02:11:25,040 engineering actual architectural 3570 02:11:28,310 --> 02:11:26,639 engineering things like that 3571 02:11:30,229 --> 02:11:28,320 and he had talked about creating a 3572 02:11:31,830 --> 02:11:30,239 system that's basically switching from a 3573 02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:31,840 consumer-based society to a 3574 02:11:35,750 --> 02:11:33,520 production-based society 3575 02:11:37,350 --> 02:11:35,760 and how like you you actually do have 3576 02:11:40,310 --> 02:11:37,360 the resources to have like 3577 02:11:41,510 --> 02:11:40,320 you know robots and machines do a lot of 3578 02:11:43,350 --> 02:11:41,520 the work for you 3579 02:11:44,550 --> 02:11:43,360 and we were talking about this earlier 3580 02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:44,560 basically like 3581 02:11:48,709 --> 02:11:47,440 freeing up the human to actually have 3582 02:11:50,550 --> 02:11:48,719 some free time 3583 02:11:52,069 --> 02:11:50,560 yeah to do things that are valuable to 3584 02:11:54,310 --> 02:11:52,079 us exactly 3585 02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:54,320 and that's what his whole society was 3586 02:11:57,510 --> 02:11:55,360 based on 3587 02:11:59,750 --> 02:11:57,520 on a production-based society where it 3588 02:12:01,910 --> 02:11:59,760 frees humans up to be able to 3589 02:12:03,109 --> 02:12:01,920 do that kind of stuff it it's pretty 3590 02:12:04,870 --> 02:12:03,119 interesting check it out it's called 3591 02:12:06,310 --> 02:12:04,880 project venus 3592 02:12:07,990 --> 02:12:06,320 well the rapture book says that the 3593 02:12:09,589 --> 02:12:08,000 angels of progress are sitting on the 3594 02:12:11,910 --> 02:12:09,599 scientists shoulders 3595 02:12:12,950 --> 02:12:11,920 just as the evil ones are sitting on the 3596 02:12:14,550 --> 02:12:12,960 government but 3597 02:12:16,950 --> 02:12:14,560 they're crying they're trying to 3598 02:12:18,390 --> 02:12:16,960 progress our our society quickly because 3599 02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:18,400 that's the only way we can take care of 3600 02:12:20,790 --> 02:12:19,360 everybody 3601 02:12:22,550 --> 02:12:20,800 and sooner or later we've got to start 3602 02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:22,560 treating everybody equal and taking care 3603 02:12:26,950 --> 02:12:22,960 of 3604 02:12:30,149 --> 02:12:26,960 everybody on the plant equally and 3605 02:12:32,310 --> 02:12:30,159 when we'll start that i'm not sure but 3606 02:12:33,270 --> 02:12:32,320 yeah it's it's gonna it's gonna take a 3607 02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:33,280 while i mean 3608 02:12:36,629 --> 02:12:34,560 would you say it was going to be like at 3609 02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:36,639 least another thousand years before 3610 02:12:39,910 --> 02:12:38,480 but that was it's been almost 100 years 3611 02:12:41,750 --> 02:12:39,920 since the rancho book was written so 3612 02:12:43,430 --> 02:12:41,760 maybe it's only 900 years we have to 3613 02:12:45,510 --> 02:12:43,440 wait 3614 02:12:47,270 --> 02:12:45,520 well at least it's not that far away 3615 02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:47,280 right 3616 02:12:50,470 --> 02:12:48,960 yeah well it's coming and the rancho 3617 02:12:51,510 --> 02:12:50,480 book discusses the worlds as they 3618 02:12:53,109 --> 02:12:51,520 progress 3619 02:12:56,950 --> 02:12:53,119 so you can go and actually read how 3620 02:12:58,550 --> 02:12:56,960 things are on the more advanced worlds 3621 02:12:59,990 --> 02:12:58,560 it said when the more advanced worlds go 3622 02:13:02,470 --> 02:13:00,000 to heaven they don't even really notice 3623 02:13:04,390 --> 02:13:02,480 a difference except they have a new body 3624 02:13:06,310 --> 02:13:04,400 it said when we go we're gonna 3625 02:13:09,910 --> 02:13:06,320 definitely notice a difference 3626 02:13:10,629 --> 02:13:09,920 yeah yeah can these can these higher 3627 02:13:13,830 --> 02:13:10,639 world 3628 02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:13,840 uh beings come to our 3629 02:13:19,270 --> 02:13:17,199 our world can they our world 3630 02:13:20,310 --> 02:13:19,280 our world is a study world the fact that 3631 02:13:21,830 --> 02:13:20,320 jesus came here 3632 02:13:23,350 --> 02:13:21,840 this is the only world he'll bestow 3633 02:13:25,189 --> 02:13:23,360 himself on 3634 02:13:26,550 --> 02:13:25,199 we have an archangel divisional 3635 02:13:28,470 --> 02:13:26,560 headquarters here 3636 02:13:30,310 --> 02:13:28,480 our world is really popular now for 3637 02:13:31,430 --> 02:13:30,320 study when people come to our universe 3638 02:13:34,390 --> 02:13:31,440 beings 3639 02:13:35,589 --> 02:13:34,400 find out about our world they want to 3640 02:13:36,870 --> 02:13:35,599 come here and stay so 3641 02:13:39,189 --> 02:13:36,880 there was a bunch of them studying when 3642 02:13:41,510 --> 02:13:39,199 jesus was here after the resurrection he 3643 02:13:45,270 --> 02:13:41,520 went up and talked to him 3644 02:13:48,470 --> 02:13:45,280 and i guess taught them 3645 02:13:49,030 --> 02:13:48,480 interesting very interesting yeah so i 3646 02:13:52,629 --> 02:13:49,040 mean 3647 02:13:55,030 --> 02:13:52,639 right 3648 02:13:56,790 --> 02:13:55,040 you have these higher higher beings that 3649 02:13:58,470 --> 02:13:56,800 are able to come here and visit us 3650 02:14:00,390 --> 02:13:58,480 whenever whenever they want to 3651 02:14:01,589 --> 02:14:00,400 whenever yeah whatever they want most of 3652 02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:01,599 them are invisible to if they're a 3653 02:14:07,189 --> 02:14:03,760 spirit being we don't see them and 3654 02:14:08,709 --> 02:14:07,199 right but they're here hundreds and 3655 02:14:09,430 --> 02:14:08,719 thousands of at a time we're studying 3656 02:14:11,030 --> 02:14:09,440 our planet 3657 02:14:12,790 --> 02:14:11,040 and you'll have the same opportunity to 3658 02:14:16,870 --> 02:14:12,800 go to different planets 3659 02:14:18,709 --> 02:14:16,880 and study them i wish i could see them 3660 02:14:20,229 --> 02:14:18,719 i invite them to stay at my house all 3661 02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:20,239 the time but i don't know if they have a 3662 02:14:23,990 --> 02:14:21,690 nicer place or 3663 02:14:25,910 --> 02:14:24,000 [Laughter] 3664 02:14:27,510 --> 02:14:25,920 well they're invisible right i mean i 3665 02:14:29,750 --> 02:14:27,520 know 3666 02:14:31,270 --> 02:14:29,760 you could just say they're here right 3667 02:14:32,629 --> 02:14:31,280 that's why but then you couldn't go to 3668 02:14:33,990 --> 02:14:32,639 the roswell museum because then you 3669 02:14:35,750 --> 02:14:34,000 would be the crazy person 3670 02:14:36,890 --> 02:14:35,760 because now you've got well i'm always a 3671 02:14:41,750 --> 02:14:36,900 crazy person so 3672 02:14:46,390 --> 02:14:43,669 some people think i'm crazy the others i 3673 02:14:48,790 --> 02:14:46,400 just try to keep guessing 3674 02:14:49,669 --> 02:14:48,800 that's the fun part yeah yeah i was 3675 02:14:51,430 --> 02:14:49,679 gonna say when your 3676 02:14:53,109 --> 02:14:51,440 house is full of invisible friends you 3677 02:14:54,629 --> 02:14:53,119 know you can order as many pizzas as you 3678 02:14:55,830 --> 02:14:54,639 want you could just you know tell the 3679 02:14:58,790 --> 02:14:55,840 pizza delivery guy 3680 02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:58,800 you know hey you know what we wanted all 3681 02:15:02,390 --> 02:15:00,560 the we wanted all the toppings 3682 02:15:05,350 --> 02:15:02,400 well unfortunately i can't eat wheat so 3683 02:15:07,669 --> 02:15:05,360 i can't eat pizzas anymore 3684 02:15:08,390 --> 02:15:07,679 oh no you gotta have cauliflower i wish 3685 02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:08,400 you wouldn't have 3686 02:15:18,470 --> 02:15:15,270 oh man somebody was wanting to know 3687 02:15:21,750 --> 02:15:18,480 if if they talk about enoch at all 3688 02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:21,760 in uh i guess in the rancho book 3689 02:15:25,669 --> 02:15:23,679 is he disgusting someone that's been 3690 02:15:29,350 --> 02:15:25,679 castrated 3691 02:15:32,709 --> 02:15:29,360 i think so yeah the the book of enoch 3692 02:15:35,910 --> 02:15:32,719 you've heard the book of enoch well 3693 02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:35,920 it does mention it it says that jesus 3694 02:15:40,390 --> 02:15:37,360 studied a book 3695 02:15:44,069 --> 02:15:40,400 purportedly written by him 3696 02:15:47,669 --> 02:15:44,079 so i so there was something that existed 3697 02:15:49,270 --> 02:15:47,679 and jesus read it and he got part of his 3698 02:15:51,109 --> 02:15:49,280 that's where he got the idea of calling 3699 02:15:52,950 --> 02:15:51,119 himself the son of man and the son of 3700 02:15:56,229 --> 02:15:52,960 god 3701 02:15:58,790 --> 02:15:56,239 came from apparently that book 3702 02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:58,800 interesting wow interesting i think i 3703 02:16:03,350 --> 02:16:00,639 think what was enoch he was 3704 02:16:04,229 --> 02:16:03,360 moses's grandfather or something well no 3705 02:16:07,589 --> 02:16:04,239 actually he was 3706 02:16:08,470 --> 02:16:07,599 um he was the first person to do what i 3707 02:16:11,669 --> 02:16:08,480 told you 3708 02:16:14,069 --> 02:16:11,679 to ascend um 3709 02:16:15,589 --> 02:16:14,079 through a primary ascension it's called 3710 02:16:18,550 --> 02:16:15,599 sun seized he 3711 02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:18,560 fused with the father at that moment so 3712 02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:20,560 he was on down the line the first humans 3713 02:16:23,270 --> 02:16:20,880 were 3714 02:16:25,589 --> 02:16:23,280 almost a million years ago adam and eve 3715 02:16:28,310 --> 02:16:25,599 were 38 000 years ago 3716 02:16:29,669 --> 02:16:28,320 the story got all confused in the old 3717 02:16:32,070 --> 02:16:29,679 testament about 3718 02:16:32,709 --> 02:16:32,080 adam and eve being the first people but 3719 02:16:35,349 --> 02:16:32,719 even the 3720 02:16:38,150 --> 02:16:35,359 old testament says and cain went to the 3721 02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:38,160 land of nod 3722 02:16:42,389 --> 02:16:39,599 well if they were the first person how 3723 02:16:46,790 --> 02:16:42,399 could there be a land of nod already 3724 02:16:49,990 --> 02:16:46,800 right and so 3725 02:16:53,190 --> 02:16:50,000 that's all explained uh paper 74 3726 02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:53,200 section 8 tells about the creation myth 3727 02:17:03,429 --> 02:17:01,990 basically it was simple people and and 3728 02:17:04,870 --> 02:17:03,439 the teachers were trying to keep things 3729 02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:04,880 simple so they didn't really try to 3730 02:17:08,709 --> 02:17:05,920 teach past 3731 02:17:10,309 --> 02:17:08,719 adam and eve and then it got to be a 3732 02:17:11,990 --> 02:17:10,319 myth and then it got to be the truth and 3733 02:17:15,509 --> 02:17:12,000 then it got to be 3734 02:17:18,870 --> 02:17:15,519 and well what happened was they got um 3735 02:17:19,429 --> 02:17:18,880 what was in ptolemy when he um he was in 3736 02:17:26,389 --> 02:17:19,439 the 3737 02:17:28,709 --> 02:17:26,399 was real and it's 3738 02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:28,719 and so he had it converted into greek 3739 02:17:32,709 --> 02:17:30,240 and then from that battle on it became 3740 02:17:34,150 --> 02:17:32,719 part of the bible and part of reality 3741 02:17:35,750 --> 02:17:34,160 but it was considered a myth by the 3742 02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:35,760 people that 3743 02:17:42,150 --> 02:17:39,280 at the time damn 3744 02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:42,160 that's interesting history humans have 3745 02:17:45,030 --> 02:17:43,519 known about evolution 3746 02:17:48,150 --> 02:17:45,040 it was only a few hundred years there 3747 02:17:51,030 --> 02:17:48,160 really that creationism was 3748 02:17:52,469 --> 02:17:51,040 was kind of taught even then you know 3749 02:17:54,389 --> 02:17:52,479 the natives think they came from a 3750 02:17:56,549 --> 02:17:54,399 coyote or a beaver 3751 02:17:58,629 --> 02:17:56,559 it was it was all time through time 3752 02:18:02,549 --> 02:17:58,639 humans recognize the progress of 3753 02:18:06,230 --> 02:18:05,349 i like that i like that a lot yeah dude 3754 02:18:08,070 --> 02:18:06,240 yeah 3755 02:18:11,429 --> 02:18:08,080 so when are you buying your your copy of 3756 02:18:14,790 --> 02:18:11,439 the rancher book tonight 3757 02:18:16,309 --> 02:18:14,800 tonight dude here's what i do i give so 3758 02:18:21,750 --> 02:18:16,319 many away that i go to the 3759 02:18:25,270 --> 02:18:23,270 there's always a bunch of used ones in 3760 02:18:27,349 --> 02:18:25,280 them in the mix 3761 02:18:29,030 --> 02:18:27,359 i love that this is like a good idea 3762 02:18:31,750 --> 02:18:29,040 there's used ones like people 3763 02:18:32,870 --> 02:18:31,760 read them and then paper give it away a 3764 02:18:35,509 --> 02:18:32,880 lot of them i get 3765 02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:35,519 have never been opened and some have a 3766 02:18:39,910 --> 02:18:38,080 few marks in them some have written but 3767 02:18:41,589 --> 02:18:39,920 it's a really hard book and if you'd 3768 02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:41,599 read the forward first 3769 02:18:47,830 --> 02:18:45,040 it's really discouraging it's so 3770 02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:47,840 so hard i recommend people don't don't 3771 02:18:50,870 --> 02:18:49,200 read the forward until you've read the 3772 02:18:52,469 --> 02:18:50,880 book two or three times 3773 02:18:54,549 --> 02:18:52,479 and then go back and try to they 3774 02:18:55,190 --> 02:18:54,559 introduced so many new concepts at one 3775 02:18:56,790 --> 02:18:55,200 time 3776 02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:56,800 that have never occurred to any mortal 3777 02:19:00,230 --> 02:18:58,399 on the planet that 3778 02:19:03,110 --> 02:19:00,240 i don't think any mortal is capable of 3779 02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:03,120 understanding it right off the bat but 3780 02:19:08,549 --> 02:19:06,639 maybe even 100 years or 200 years but 3781 02:19:10,469 --> 02:19:08,559 so the forward is maybe just like too 3782 02:19:13,830 --> 02:19:10,479 much at once 3783 02:19:19,030 --> 02:19:13,840 yeah can i read you one little paragraph 3784 02:19:25,270 --> 02:19:23,349 this is this is insane to me 3785 02:19:27,270 --> 02:19:25,280 and i'm i've come to some amount of 3786 02:19:28,629 --> 02:19:27,280 understanding of it but 3787 02:19:32,469 --> 02:19:28,639 but i wouldn't want to try to teach it 3788 02:19:32,479 --> 02:19:36,389 it's a 3789 02:19:40,469 --> 02:19:39,429 always remember potential infinity is 3790 02:19:43,509 --> 02:19:40,479 absolute 3791 02:19:45,589 --> 02:19:43,519 and inseparable from eternity actual 3792 02:19:47,429 --> 02:19:45,599 infinity and time can never be anything 3793 02:19:48,870 --> 02:19:47,439 but partial and must therefore be 3794 02:19:50,389 --> 02:19:48,880 non-absolute 3795 02:19:52,230 --> 02:19:50,399 neither can infinity of actual 3796 02:19:54,710 --> 02:19:52,240 personality be absolute 3797 02:19:56,230 --> 02:19:54,720 except an unqualified deity and it is 3798 02:19:58,790 --> 02:19:56,240 the differential of 3799 02:19:59,670 --> 02:19:58,800 infinity potential and the unqualified 3800 02:20:05,910 --> 02:19:59,680 absolute 3801 02:20:08,389 --> 02:20:05,920 thereby making it cosmically possible to 3802 02:20:10,230 --> 02:20:08,399 have material universes in space 3803 02:20:12,940 --> 02:20:10,240 and spiritually possible to have finite 3804 02:20:15,110 --> 02:20:12,950 personalities in time 3805 02:20:18,630 --> 02:20:15,120 [Music] 3806 02:20:20,870 --> 02:20:18,640 i think i understood that well there's 3807 02:20:22,950 --> 02:20:20,880 it's true and you kind of need to know 3808 02:20:23,750 --> 02:20:22,960 what the unqualified absolute is which 3809 02:20:25,030 --> 02:20:23,760 is 3810 02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:25,040 essentially everything that hasn't 3811 02:20:28,550 --> 02:20:26,880 happened the qualified 3812 02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:28,560 absolutely those things that have 3813 02:20:32,469 --> 02:20:30,479 happened in the reality 3814 02:20:33,590 --> 02:20:32,479 and the unqualified absolutists are the 3815 02:20:36,230 --> 02:20:33,600 potential 3816 02:20:37,990 --> 02:20:36,240 the qualified as a is the actual and the 3817 02:20:39,990 --> 02:20:38,000 unqualified is the potential of things 3818 02:20:42,830 --> 02:20:40,000 that can't happen 3819 02:20:47,190 --> 02:20:42,840 so there's a tension that exists between 3820 02:20:50,389 --> 02:20:48,950 it's like a really efficient way of 3821 02:20:52,389 --> 02:20:50,399 saying like 3822 02:20:53,429 --> 02:20:52,399 like i've always been curious about the 3823 02:20:56,469 --> 02:20:53,439 idea of truth 3824 02:20:59,590 --> 02:20:56,479 itself like how do you define truth 3825 02:21:03,030 --> 02:20:59,600 yeah well there's papers on truth 3826 02:21:06,309 --> 02:21:03,040 yeah okay once yeah that whole 3827 02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:06,319 that whole thing that he read was like 3828 02:21:09,590 --> 02:21:08,800 it kind of said to me like hey whatever 3829 02:21:12,950 --> 02:21:09,600 you think 3830 02:21:14,630 --> 02:21:12,960 exists exists and whatever you can't 3831 02:21:17,670 --> 02:21:14,640 even conceive 3832 02:21:23,030 --> 02:21:21,349 yeah yeah it either did 3833 02:21:25,590 --> 02:21:23,040 or it would see how that would turn off 3834 02:21:27,670 --> 02:21:25,600 people i mean just that one 3835 02:21:28,870 --> 02:21:27,680 thing i mean unless you're a philosopher 3836 02:21:30,550 --> 02:21:28,880 unless you're willing to set and 3837 02:21:32,230 --> 02:21:30,560 consider it that's 3838 02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:32,240 you know that just to turn off to most 3839 02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:34,000 people yeah well i 3840 02:21:37,190 --> 02:21:35,680 i definitely see why you said read it 3841 02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:37,200 two or three times yeah 3842 02:21:39,910 --> 02:21:38,560 because that's why i feel like i 3843 02:21:40,870 --> 02:21:39,920 understood it a little better just by 3844 02:21:42,710 --> 02:21:40,880 talking to you for 3845 02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:42,720 for the past you know a couple couple 3846 02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:45,040 hours like i i i grabbed onto a couple 3847 02:21:47,349 --> 02:21:45,680 of things 3848 02:21:49,910 --> 02:21:47,359 you know when you hear something you 3849 02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:49,920 kind of you kind of can get it i mean 3850 02:21:53,830 --> 02:21:51,760 i don't fully understand that passage 3851 02:21:55,510 --> 02:21:53,840 but it i'm like open to it now i'm 3852 02:21:59,270 --> 02:21:55,520 almost like 3853 02:22:01,590 --> 02:21:59,280 pentecost jesus gave us the new teacher 3854 02:22:02,950 --> 02:22:01,600 and it's called the spirit of truth and 3855 02:22:04,790 --> 02:22:02,960 so you have within you that's the way 3856 02:22:07,030 --> 02:22:04,800 jesus inhabits you right now 3857 02:22:09,349 --> 02:22:07,040 as you have a disability to discern the 3858 02:22:11,030 --> 02:22:09,359 truth when it's given to you 3859 02:22:13,030 --> 02:22:11,040 and that's why you rejected things in 3860 02:22:14,389 --> 02:22:13,040 the bible and rejected things in the 3861 02:22:15,910 --> 02:22:14,399 religions that you 3862 02:22:18,070 --> 02:22:15,920 because you didn't perceive the truth in 3863 02:22:19,590 --> 02:22:18,080 it but if i read you the truth you're 3864 02:22:22,150 --> 02:22:19,600 going to perceive it and you're going to 3865 02:22:23,590 --> 02:22:22,160 accept it and i think the more you read 3866 02:22:25,030 --> 02:22:23,600 the rancho book the more truth you'll 3867 02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:25,040 find 3868 02:22:30,790 --> 02:22:27,520 and right now truth is relative to us 3869 02:22:34,070 --> 02:22:30,800 we're only partial beings only partial 3870 02:22:35,349 --> 02:22:34,080 so in any one realm of god's creation 3871 02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:35,359 the truth is 3872 02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:37,439 is relative at that time to those people 3873 02:22:43,270 --> 02:22:40,080 in relation to other peoples 3874 02:22:46,710 --> 02:22:43,280 in the central universe 3875 02:22:49,750 --> 02:22:46,720 right dude 3876 02:22:50,870 --> 02:22:49,760 there's 2 100 pages of things to discuss 3877 02:22:54,150 --> 02:22:50,880 and that 3878 02:22:57,750 --> 02:22:54,160 did mike i'm so glad that we 3879 02:23:01,030 --> 02:22:57,760 met you my friend uh this has been uh 3880 02:23:01,670 --> 02:23:01,040 fantastic dude yeah i i have thoroughly 3881 02:23:03,190 --> 02:23:01,680 enjoyed i 3882 02:23:05,110 --> 02:23:03,200 i feel like we're kind of getting 3883 02:23:06,950 --> 02:23:05,120 towards the end of our time here man but 3884 02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:06,960 dude i'm so glad we met you man thank 3885 02:23:08,469 --> 02:23:08,160 you so much for being with us this has 3886 02:23:10,790 --> 02:23:08,479 been 3887 02:23:11,510 --> 02:23:10,800 awesome well there's plenty more anytime 3888 02:23:14,950 --> 02:23:11,520 you want to 3889 02:23:17,030 --> 02:23:14,960 discuss it more hey man yeah really 3890 02:23:18,790 --> 02:23:17,040 if somebody if you're one of your guests 3891 02:23:20,710 --> 02:23:18,800 um 3892 02:23:23,030 --> 02:23:20,720 uh fades out on you doesn't show up you 3893 02:23:26,469 --> 02:23:23,040 can call me about any time i 3894 02:23:28,150 --> 02:23:26,479 i don't need anything that would 3895 02:23:29,590 --> 02:23:28,160 yeah that would that would be totally 3896 02:23:31,510 --> 02:23:29,600 awesome because i mean 3897 02:23:33,110 --> 02:23:31,520 you just said there's a lot of pages in 3898 02:23:35,030 --> 02:23:33,120 there and i 3899 02:23:36,309 --> 02:23:35,040 i'm definitely going to dive into this a 3900 02:23:39,670 --> 02:23:36,319 little bit more 3901 02:23:40,870 --> 02:23:39,680 and 3902 02:23:42,630 --> 02:23:40,880 i mean we're definitely going to have to 3903 02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:42,640 have you back on again so you can kind 3904 02:23:46,070 --> 02:23:42,960 of 3905 02:23:47,590 --> 02:23:46,080 walk us through this man because 3906 02:23:49,270 --> 02:23:47,600 you're you're definitely an expert i 3907 02:23:50,230 --> 02:23:49,280 mean you were quoting stuff and didn't 3908 02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:50,240 even have to read it 3909 02:23:58,389 --> 02:23:56,630 i know a lot of people a lot of problems 3910 02:24:00,630 --> 02:23:58,399 i spent a lot of time trying to analyze 3911 02:24:01,349 --> 02:24:00,640 their situation what lesson do they need 3912 02:24:04,389 --> 02:24:01,359 what 3913 02:24:06,550 --> 02:24:04,399 and then my goal my job on earth is 3914 02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:06,560 uplift the spirituality of the planet as 3915 02:24:09,510 --> 02:24:07,520 people 3916 02:24:11,429 --> 02:24:09,520 so i work on planetary problems all the 3917 02:24:14,550 --> 02:24:11,439 time too of how do i solve 3918 02:24:18,469 --> 02:24:14,560 planetary problems um 3919 02:24:21,030 --> 02:24:18,479 so i have to study it absolutely 3920 02:24:21,750 --> 02:24:21,040 dude yes and for everybody listening man 3921 02:24:23,590 --> 02:24:21,760 i mean whether 3922 02:24:25,270 --> 02:24:23,600 whether you believe it or you don't 3923 02:24:26,230 --> 02:24:25,280 believe it it seems like everybody in 3924 02:24:28,870 --> 02:24:26,240 the chat was kind of 3925 02:24:29,510 --> 02:24:28,880 on board like hey that's pretty cool but 3926 02:24:30,630 --> 02:24:29,520 like i'm saying 3927 02:24:33,349 --> 02:24:30,640 whether you believe it or you don't 3928 02:24:33,830 --> 02:24:33,359 spirit of truth it sounds like something 3929 02:24:35,750 --> 02:24:33,840 that 3930 02:24:37,990 --> 02:24:35,760 you know it's worth your time to at 3931 02:24:40,870 --> 02:24:38,000 least go and check it out 3932 02:24:42,070 --> 02:24:40,880 right just go check it out see if it's 3933 02:24:44,630 --> 02:24:42,080 for you if it's not 3934 02:24:45,510 --> 02:24:44,640 then it's not if it is then awesome 3935 02:24:47,349 --> 02:24:45,520 that's kind of cool 3936 02:24:49,750 --> 02:24:47,359 you know you just and for those that 3937 02:24:52,630 --> 02:24:49,760 want to start you know maybe this book 3938 02:24:54,389 --> 02:24:52,640 is it's very small and thick you can 3939 02:24:55,510 --> 02:24:54,399 read it one afternoon 3940 02:24:57,750 --> 02:24:55,520 and it's going to give you a lot of 3941 02:25:00,150 --> 02:24:57,760 information and you'll kind of discern 3942 02:25:03,110 --> 02:25:00,160 yourself if you think it's true 3943 02:25:05,349 --> 02:25:03,120 yeah the author says you know that no 3944 02:25:06,870 --> 02:25:05,359 human could have the imagination 3945 02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:06,880 and he certainly didn't have that 3946 02:25:09,830 --> 02:25:09,520 imagination and they talk about things 3947 02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:09,840 that 3948 02:25:13,590 --> 02:25:11,520 i'm probably the only person on the 3949 02:25:15,590 --> 02:25:13,600 planet have thought about 3950 02:25:18,389 --> 02:25:15,600 i know some of the books were written i 3951 02:25:19,990 --> 02:25:18,399 think specifically for me to 3952 02:25:22,870 --> 02:25:20,000 because they corrected mistakes that i 3953 02:25:25,030 --> 02:25:22,880 had and then updated information that i 3954 02:25:27,429 --> 02:25:25,040 needed 3955 02:25:30,550 --> 02:25:27,439 so i think the time is now let's let the 3956 02:25:32,950 --> 02:25:30,560 world know about the original book 3957 02:25:33,670 --> 02:25:32,960 and is this podcast available all the 3958 02:25:36,070 --> 02:25:33,680 time can 3959 02:25:37,590 --> 02:25:36,080 other people come and look at it oh yeah 3960 02:25:41,270 --> 02:25:37,600 yeah 3961 02:25:43,190 --> 02:25:41,280 so we do the show live on youtube and 3962 02:25:45,910 --> 02:25:43,200 then i i'm i'll update 3963 02:25:48,230 --> 02:25:45,920 uh we upload the podcast to all the 3964 02:25:50,870 --> 02:25:48,240 platforms you know spotify itunes 3965 02:25:51,990 --> 02:25:50,880 uh usually usually the the night of or 3966 02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:52,000 tomorrow morning so 3967 02:25:55,670 --> 02:25:53,359 if one of my friends wanted to watch it 3968 02:25:57,030 --> 02:25:55,680 later they could oh definitely yeah 3969 02:25:59,590 --> 02:25:57,040 absolutely man 3970 02:26:00,790 --> 02:25:59,600 yeah yeah and dude yeah well let's 3971 02:26:03,750 --> 02:26:00,800 change the world guys 3972 02:26:05,270 --> 02:26:03,760 let's let's make that spiritual world we 3973 02:26:05,990 --> 02:26:05,280 all want where we get along and take 3974 02:26:07,830 --> 02:26:06,000 care of each other 3975 02:26:10,309 --> 02:26:07,840 and we meet the aliens and we get to 3976 02:26:13,030 --> 02:26:10,319 ride in their ship and 3977 02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:13,040 that's the world i want that sounds like 3978 02:26:16,389 --> 02:26:14,240 the coolest world 3979 02:26:17,910 --> 02:26:16,399 possible i think that's what we all want 3980 02:26:20,550 --> 02:26:17,920 we just want to meet some dang 3981 02:26:22,070 --> 02:26:20,560 aliens and be cool with each other right 3982 02:26:23,830 --> 02:26:22,080 you gotta you gotta 3983 02:26:25,270 --> 02:26:23,840 i gotta tell you that i have great faith 3984 02:26:26,950 --> 02:26:25,280 in the young people 3985 02:26:29,510 --> 02:26:26,960 my generation has screwed things up 3986 02:26:30,950 --> 02:26:29,520 royally but the younger generation is 3987 02:26:35,349 --> 02:26:30,960 much more spiritual 3988 02:26:36,389 --> 02:26:35,359 they're much less some um 3989 02:26:38,710 --> 02:26:36,399 you know they don't bother they don't 3990 02:26:40,309 --> 02:26:38,720 worry about the races they're not 3991 02:26:42,070 --> 02:26:40,319 they're just better humans we're 3992 02:26:44,150 --> 02:26:42,080 evolving better 3993 02:26:46,830 --> 02:26:44,160 into better beings and so i have a lot 3994 02:26:52,389 --> 02:26:46,840 of faith in you guys it's gonna get 3995 02:26:55,510 --> 02:26:53,830 well there's still great people in your 3996 02:26:57,910 --> 02:26:55,520 generation man i mean you got a lot of 3997 02:26:59,670 --> 02:26:57,920 information so don't go anywhere 3998 02:27:01,030 --> 02:26:59,680 anytime soon yeah definitely because i 3999 02:27:03,349 --> 02:27:01,040 mean we got you know 4000 02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:03,359 we have to we have to learn you know 4001 02:27:06,469 --> 02:27:05,200 from somebody so as long as there's 4002 02:27:08,550 --> 02:27:06,479 people like you around 4003 02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:08,560 you know and there's people like us that 4004 02:27:12,469 --> 02:27:10,720 are are willing to keep an open mind 4005 02:27:13,910 --> 02:27:12,479 i mean there's a lot of stuff that that 4006 02:27:16,309 --> 02:27:13,920 we can definitely learn 4007 02:27:17,270 --> 02:27:16,319 from from your generation from certain 4008 02:27:21,110 --> 02:27:17,280 people for sure 4009 02:27:24,070 --> 02:27:21,120 you know thank you tammy 4010 02:27:26,150 --> 02:27:24,080 yeah yeah tammy's pretty awesome she's 4011 02:27:26,710 --> 02:27:26,160 usually in the chat every every thursday 4012 02:27:29,030 --> 02:27:26,720 so 4013 02:27:30,870 --> 02:27:29,040 but mike if there's if there's a let 4014 02:27:33,030 --> 02:27:30,880 everybody know where they can find you 4015 02:27:34,469 --> 02:27:33,040 again like on youtube or anything like 4016 02:27:36,389 --> 02:27:34,479 that so that way 4017 02:27:38,469 --> 02:27:36,399 you can go check it out yeah i just 4018 02:27:41,110 --> 02:27:38,479 started a youtube channel 4019 02:27:42,870 --> 02:27:41,120 i spent my life in computers i i was 4020 02:27:45,590 --> 02:27:42,880 considered a computer genius 4021 02:27:47,349 --> 02:27:45,600 back in the 70s and 80s but it got so 4022 02:27:50,150 --> 02:27:47,359 boring to me 4023 02:27:50,469 --> 02:27:50,160 but i just don't like to i don't like to 4024 02:27:53,910 --> 02:27:50,479 do 4025 02:27:57,270 --> 02:27:53,920 anything on computers anymore so 4026 02:27:58,950 --> 02:27:57,280 so i kind of did this and 4027 02:28:01,190 --> 02:27:58,960 anyway i hope you understand that that's 4028 02:28:03,110 --> 02:28:01,200 i'm not really thrilled 4029 02:28:04,870 --> 02:28:03,120 oh dude i everything worked out 4030 02:28:08,230 --> 02:28:04,880 perfectly you you have 4031 02:28:08,630 --> 02:28:08,240 the uh this chrome the chromebook man 4032 02:28:10,950 --> 02:28:08,640 it's just 4033 02:28:13,110 --> 02:28:10,960 uh yeah dude you look great you sound 4034 02:28:14,630 --> 02:28:13,120 great so i'm glad it all worked out man 4035 02:28:15,910 --> 02:28:14,640 yeah well just work good on my hand i've 4036 02:28:17,349 --> 02:28:15,920 got a speaker here and i can hear 4037 02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:17,359 everything well and 4038 02:28:20,790 --> 02:28:19,920 and so yeah it was a good experience for 4039 02:28:23,110 --> 02:28:20,800 me 4040 02:28:24,550 --> 02:28:23,120 and if i can talk about the urantia book 4041 02:28:26,150 --> 02:28:24,560 if we just get more people to know it 4042 02:28:27,830 --> 02:28:26,160 there's the answer book 4043 02:28:29,670 --> 02:28:27,840 we can solve all of our problems if 4044 02:28:31,349 --> 02:28:29,680 everybody will just start working on the 4045 02:28:33,030 --> 02:28:31,359 same page 4046 02:28:35,429 --> 02:28:33,040 yeah just check it out what's your 4047 02:28:38,710 --> 02:28:35,439 what's your youtube channel called 4048 02:28:43,670 --> 02:28:42,070 gravionic garden the gold medium 4049 02:28:45,270 --> 02:28:43,680 yeah the garden of eden failed and there 4050 02:28:47,030 --> 02:28:45,280 was a second garden that failed so the 4051 02:28:48,710 --> 02:28:47,040 gravionic garden is designed 4052 02:28:50,309 --> 02:28:48,720 to eventually start up a new garden of 4053 02:28:51,510 --> 02:28:50,319 eden oh wow 4054 02:28:53,429 --> 02:28:51,520 there ought to be a place for these 4055 02:28:54,950 --> 02:28:53,439 people to meet where the 4056 02:28:57,349 --> 02:28:54,960 monk of india is going to come back at 4057 02:28:59,510 --> 02:28:57,359 some point um that we ought to be 4058 02:29:01,590 --> 02:28:59,520 right now creating a place where we 4059 02:29:04,150 --> 02:29:01,600 study the rancho book where we bring the 4060 02:29:05,510 --> 02:29:04,160 world's religions together and seek for 4061 02:29:08,630 --> 02:29:05,520 unity of 4062 02:29:11,349 --> 02:29:08,640 thought without uniformity of belief we 4063 02:29:13,750 --> 02:29:11,359 don't all have to believe the same thing 4064 02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:13,760 we just need to agree on a unity that we 4065 02:29:18,230 --> 02:29:15,520 believe in the same god and we work with 4066 02:29:19,910 --> 02:29:18,240 the same things 4067 02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:19,920 so that's all the kind of things i think 4068 02:29:25,110 --> 02:29:22,960 can happen and that we need to work for 4069 02:29:26,230 --> 02:29:25,120 absolutely oh man i like that man that's 4070 02:29:28,469 --> 02:29:26,240 a good message hey 4071 02:29:30,469 --> 02:29:28,479 well hey email me the uh the youtube 4072 02:29:34,150 --> 02:29:30,479 link i'm trying to search for it here 4073 02:29:42,110 --> 02:29:37,030 did you find it my friends found it 4074 02:29:48,309 --> 02:29:43,670 g-r-a-v-i-o-m-o 4075 02:29:51,750 --> 02:29:51,030 that's not it so i'm new to youtube i 4076 02:29:53,670 --> 02:29:51,760 mean am i 4077 02:29:55,190 --> 02:29:53,680 yeah it may be kind of bored with 4078 02:29:58,469 --> 02:29:55,200 computers but i've 4079 02:30:00,309 --> 02:29:58,479 put an ad in facebook a friend that has 4080 02:30:01,830 --> 02:30:00,319 looking for somebody to teach me youtube 4081 02:30:03,429 --> 02:30:01,840 how i can 4082 02:30:06,070 --> 02:30:03,439 because i have a whole number of videos 4083 02:30:09,270 --> 02:30:06,080 i want to produce a bunch on ufos 4084 02:30:10,790 --> 02:30:09,280 and a number of subjects well hey let's 4085 02:30:12,630 --> 02:30:10,800 let's keep in contact because we'll 4086 02:30:14,790 --> 02:30:12,640 promote your stuff man if you you'll put 4087 02:30:16,950 --> 02:30:14,800 out a video 4088 02:30:18,309 --> 02:30:16,960 and i'll probably send out 30 or 40 4089 02:30:19,510 --> 02:30:18,319 letters and you're the only ones that 4090 02:30:22,710 --> 02:30:19,520 answered me 4091 02:30:24,230 --> 02:30:22,720 oh man well hey i'm glad we were able to 4092 02:30:28,389 --> 02:30:24,240 have you on you know 4093 02:30:32,309 --> 02:30:28,399 the the other uh uh you know 29 4094 02:30:34,469 --> 02:30:32,319 39 they missed out they missed out 4095 02:30:35,590 --> 02:30:34,479 because this was fun yeah i had a great 4096 02:30:38,230 --> 02:30:35,600 time seriously 4097 02:30:41,190 --> 02:30:38,240 seriously yeah well me too right i love 4098 02:30:43,429 --> 02:30:41,200 the truth and love talking about it 4099 02:30:44,950 --> 02:30:43,439 yeah man well hey we love you man and 4100 02:30:45,590 --> 02:30:44,960 and thank you so much for joining 4101 02:30:47,030 --> 02:30:45,600 tonight hey 4102 02:30:49,030 --> 02:30:47,040 we're gonna keep in contact i'm gonna 4103 02:30:51,190 --> 02:30:49,040 post your uh your youtube channel 4104 02:30:53,429 --> 02:30:51,200 uh to this video so if anybody finds it 4105 02:30:54,070 --> 02:30:53,439 you know they'll have that link and then 4106 02:30:58,630 --> 02:30:54,080 uh 4107 02:31:01,110 --> 02:30:58,640 we'll be in touch 4108 02:31:02,630 --> 02:31:01,120 soon and we'd love to have you back on 4109 02:31:05,190 --> 02:31:02,640 well as soon as i learned youtube i'll 4110 02:31:06,710 --> 02:31:05,200 be posting a bunch more videos 4111 02:31:09,030 --> 02:31:06,720 some from my phone but they went to 4112 02:31:10,070 --> 02:31:09,040 micro mics you might try looking for 4113 02:31:12,389 --> 02:31:10,080 that one 4114 02:31:14,389 --> 02:31:12,399 okay cool man check that out too figure 4115 02:31:16,710 --> 02:31:14,399 it out 4116 02:31:17,830 --> 02:31:16,720 all right have a good night man thank 4117 02:31:21,910 --> 02:31:17,840 you very much 4118 02:31:23,110 --> 02:31:21,920 yeah thank you and so what up oh 4119 02:31:25,349 --> 02:31:23,120 we brought you back in we brought you 4120 02:31:27,990 --> 02:31:25,359 back in how do you understand 4121 02:31:28,870 --> 02:31:28,000 this oh yeah you can you can just close 4122 02:31:32,550 --> 02:31:28,880 the window 4123 02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:32,560 sure yeah that'll work man thanks 4124 02:31:39,429 --> 02:31:36,160 all right bye yeah 4125 02:31:42,630 --> 02:31:39,439 dude he was so cool i loved it so much 4126 02:31:44,070 --> 02:31:42,640 that was a lot of fun like i love i love 4127 02:31:47,030 --> 02:31:44,080 the uh 4128 02:31:47,429 --> 02:31:47,040 like the just the positive attitude and 4129 02:31:53,110 --> 02:31:47,439 the 4130 02:31:55,030 --> 02:31:53,120 you know just that love feeling man 4131 02:31:57,590 --> 02:31:55,040 surrounding the whole thing 4132 02:31:59,510 --> 02:31:57,600 the whole topic you know he he had a lot 4133 02:32:02,710 --> 02:31:59,520 of 4134 02:32:04,469 --> 02:32:02,720 crazy [\h__\h] happen to him that that sucks 4135 02:32:05,750 --> 02:32:04,479 you know like with his meteorite and 4136 02:32:07,110 --> 02:32:05,760 stuff and for him to be able to keep 4137 02:32:08,389 --> 02:32:07,120 such a positive attitude about 4138 02:32:10,230 --> 02:32:08,399 everything was pretty awesome 4139 02:32:12,070 --> 02:32:10,240 right i really enjoyed that that was 4140 02:32:13,910 --> 02:32:12,080 super super cool so 4141 02:32:15,670 --> 02:32:13,920 everybody go check him out go check out 4142 02:32:17,510 --> 02:32:15,680 his his youtube stuff like he said he's 4143 02:32:18,710 --> 02:32:17,520 going to be posting a lot more stuff 4144 02:32:21,030 --> 02:32:18,720 coming up pretty soon 4145 02:32:21,910 --> 02:32:21,040 once he learns how to use some youtube 4146 02:32:26,389 --> 02:32:21,920 uh 4147 02:32:29,110 --> 02:32:26,399 to be interesting stuff coming 4148 02:32:29,990 --> 02:32:29,120 from that direction yeah yeah you guys 4149 02:32:31,830 --> 02:32:30,000 are definitely going to hear 4150 02:32:33,190 --> 02:32:31,840 uh again from from mike in the future 4151 02:32:36,389 --> 02:32:33,200 dude that was awesome 4152 02:32:38,309 --> 02:32:36,399 but uh yeah dude dude uh do we have any 4153 02:32:39,429 --> 02:32:38,319 uh sponsors we want to talk about before 4154 02:32:41,349 --> 02:32:39,439 we oh guys 4155 02:32:43,429 --> 02:32:41,359 if you're not subscribed to our channel 4156 02:32:45,990 --> 02:32:43,439 please hit the subscribe button 4157 02:32:46,950 --> 02:32:46,000 because click it just click the button 4158 02:32:49,990 --> 02:32:46,960 great 4159 02:32:51,830 --> 02:32:50,000 click the button because you'll you'll 4160 02:32:53,590 --> 02:32:51,840 get notified next time we go live 4161 02:32:54,710 --> 02:32:53,600 because uh you know we're pretty random 4162 02:32:55,590 --> 02:32:54,720 you know you never know when we're gonna 4163 02:32:58,710 --> 02:32:55,600 go live so 4164 02:33:02,150 --> 02:32:58,720 usually thursday you never know 4165 02:33:04,309 --> 02:33:02,160 so that's pretty fun yeah dr argonne it 4166 02:33:05,030 --> 02:33:04,319 was pretty interesting perspectives and 4167 02:33:07,590 --> 02:33:05,040 theories 4168 02:33:09,270 --> 02:33:07,600 for sure right and like we were talking 4169 02:33:11,190 --> 02:33:09,280 about dude how you just like hit a wall 4170 02:33:12,630 --> 02:33:11,200 sometimes on like 4171 02:33:14,309 --> 02:33:12,640 what you're trying to think about you 4172 02:33:15,030 --> 02:33:14,319 know you're trying to like kind of think 4173 02:33:16,710 --> 02:33:15,040 outside 4174 02:33:18,230 --> 02:33:16,720 that box of stuff that you learned 4175 02:33:19,750 --> 02:33:18,240 before and 4176 02:33:21,270 --> 02:33:19,760 and just hearing like another 4177 02:33:23,990 --> 02:33:21,280 perspective another 4178 02:33:24,630 --> 02:33:24,000 uh you know angle at the whole thing is 4179 02:33:26,710 --> 02:33:24,640 just cool 4180 02:33:28,790 --> 02:33:26,720 because it does it opens up a whole new 4181 02:33:30,950 --> 02:33:28,800 box of information 4182 02:33:33,270 --> 02:33:30,960 that you can kind of like you know play 4183 02:33:34,309 --> 02:33:33,280 with yeah and like put pieces together 4184 02:33:36,950 --> 02:33:34,319 right dude 4185 02:33:38,870 --> 02:33:36,960 i am like constantly on the search for 4186 02:33:41,429 --> 02:33:38,880 new puzzle pieces dude it's like 4187 02:33:42,950 --> 02:33:41,439 i have this million it started out as a 4188 02:33:46,230 --> 02:33:42,960 100 piece puzzle set 4189 02:33:47,750 --> 02:33:46,240 and i i got to the 99th piece and i was 4190 02:33:50,309 --> 02:33:47,760 missing that 100th piece 4191 02:33:52,469 --> 02:33:50,319 and as i looked under the table i found 4192 02:33:54,309 --> 02:33:52,479 1 000 more pieces 4193 02:33:56,870 --> 02:33:54,319 every time that happens man and this was 4194 02:33:59,429 --> 02:33:56,880 like such great timing i 4195 02:34:00,870 --> 02:33:59,439 yeah great timing because yeah i 4196 02:34:02,550 --> 02:34:00,880 definitely have been hitting that wall 4197 02:34:04,469 --> 02:34:02,560 recently like i kind of went through 4198 02:34:05,349 --> 02:34:04,479 this journey of like spirituality stuff 4199 02:34:07,510 --> 02:34:05,359 dude 4200 02:34:09,110 --> 02:34:07,520 it only got so far where i was like kind 4201 02:34:11,830 --> 02:34:09,120 of missing that that 4202 02:34:13,670 --> 02:34:11,840 uh that that inspiration that that 4203 02:34:16,389 --> 02:34:13,680 overwhelming thing of like 4204 02:34:17,990 --> 02:34:16,399 oh i'm figuring stuff out oh yeah it's 4205 02:34:19,990 --> 02:34:18,000 become so much 4206 02:34:21,750 --> 02:34:20,000 of of late like i'm just hearing the 4207 02:34:22,150 --> 02:34:21,760 same stuff over and over again you know 4208 02:34:25,190 --> 02:34:22,160 yeah 4209 02:34:27,990 --> 02:34:25,200 refreshing to just 4210 02:34:28,790 --> 02:34:28,000 i'm so interested i want to read a book 4211 02:34:31,110 --> 02:34:28,800 yeah it's uh 4212 02:34:32,150 --> 02:34:31,120 it's it's i'm definitely gonna and dude 4213 02:34:33,830 --> 02:34:32,160 like i said like 4214 02:34:35,910 --> 02:34:33,840 it's something that i've i've known 4215 02:34:38,870 --> 02:34:35,920 about for a while and i've kind of 4216 02:34:40,150 --> 02:34:38,880 i periodically pop in on it and like 4217 02:34:42,710 --> 02:34:40,160 watch a couple videos 4218 02:34:43,270 --> 02:34:42,720 read some articles and read some stuff 4219 02:34:45,750 --> 02:34:43,280 and 4220 02:34:47,830 --> 02:34:45,760 like i always every time i watch 4221 02:34:50,389 --> 02:34:47,840 something or read something 4222 02:34:51,270 --> 02:34:50,399 from the urantia book i always walk away 4223 02:34:54,630 --> 02:34:51,280 with like 4224 02:34:55,429 --> 02:34:54,640 a new perspective like oh that's pretty 4225 02:34:57,990 --> 02:34:55,439 interesting 4226 02:34:59,590 --> 02:34:58,000 like you know and like i said like we 4227 02:35:00,150 --> 02:34:59,600 before we even started the show is like 4228 02:35:01,910 --> 02:35:00,160 you know 4229 02:35:03,590 --> 02:35:01,920 a lot of stuff i just kind of take with 4230 02:35:05,990 --> 02:35:03,600 a grain of salt 4231 02:35:06,950 --> 02:35:06,000 yeah but like this whole thing was 4232 02:35:09,990 --> 02:35:06,960 pretty cool 4233 02:35:10,389 --> 02:35:10,000 just because of you know i don't know it 4234 02:35:13,590 --> 02:35:10,399 really 4235 02:35:16,309 --> 02:35:13,600 shakes your reality but it doesn't like 4236 02:35:17,030 --> 02:35:16,319 shake you out of your current reality 4237 02:35:21,190 --> 02:35:17,040 like 4238 02:35:23,590 --> 02:35:21,200 you know 4239 02:35:24,550 --> 02:35:23,600 and mix it up a little bit and and 4240 02:35:27,110 --> 02:35:24,560 excite you 4241 02:35:28,469 --> 02:35:27,120 about something new yeah you know it's 4242 02:35:31,349 --> 02:35:28,479 less of like a 4243 02:35:32,550 --> 02:35:31,359 hindrance or or uh conflict it's more of 4244 02:35:35,830 --> 02:35:32,560 a catalyst it's like 4245 02:35:37,910 --> 02:35:35,840 right it's it's it's it's a smooth 4246 02:35:39,510 --> 02:35:37,920 transition it's not like oh everything 4247 02:35:42,230 --> 02:35:39,520 that i've learned is wrong 4248 02:35:42,870 --> 02:35:42,240 it's not necessarily how it is even 4249 02:35:45,429 --> 02:35:42,880 though it is 4250 02:35:47,270 --> 02:35:45,439 right but but it still uses terminology 4251 02:35:49,750 --> 02:35:47,280 and things that you're familiar with 4252 02:35:51,590 --> 02:35:49,760 yes so it doesn't completely throw your 4253 02:35:52,469 --> 02:35:51,600 throw you off you it just it really 4254 02:35:56,150 --> 02:35:52,479 shifts 4255 02:35:59,910 --> 02:35:56,160 you know 4256 02:36:01,910 --> 02:35:59,920 oh yeah good point like it's that's 4257 02:36:04,070 --> 02:36:01,920 like it's still using stuff that we know 4258 02:36:05,510 --> 02:36:04,080 and we can have that language barrier 4259 02:36:06,710 --> 02:36:05,520 there's no language barrier it's yeah 4260 02:36:07,030 --> 02:36:06,720 it's not like it's in a different way 4261 02:36:09,349 --> 02:36:07,040 well 4262 02:36:11,110 --> 02:36:09,359 obviously but it's not bringing in 4263 02:36:12,790 --> 02:36:11,120 totally different ideas it's just 4264 02:36:14,710 --> 02:36:12,800 tweaking it like hey so you know that 4265 02:36:16,230 --> 02:36:14,720 one thing it's a little different than 4266 02:36:18,710 --> 02:36:16,240 what you've been told and 4267 02:36:19,429 --> 02:36:18,720 dude i just love that kind of stuff yeah 4268 02:36:21,349 --> 02:36:19,439 and then it 4269 02:36:24,550 --> 02:36:21,359 it like perfectly falls into place like 4270 02:36:28,790 --> 02:36:26,389 and it was cool how like every question 4271 02:36:32,389 --> 02:36:28,800 that like we possibly had it's like oh 4272 02:36:33,429 --> 02:36:32,399 that's page 145 right off of the dome 4273 02:36:35,910 --> 02:36:33,439 just remembered it 4274 02:36:36,550 --> 02:36:35,920 i know i know everything and i love that 4275 02:36:38,550 --> 02:36:36,560 there's like an 4276 02:36:39,750 --> 02:36:38,560 index that you can just be like hmm is 4277 02:36:42,309 --> 02:36:39,760 there oral sex 4278 02:36:43,830 --> 02:36:42,319 in higher dimensions yeah you know and 4279 02:36:45,190 --> 02:36:43,840 you can literally find something about 4280 02:36:48,389 --> 02:36:45,200 like that's hilarious like 4281 02:36:51,110 --> 02:36:48,399 yeah just the sumerians oh well there's 4282 02:36:53,190 --> 02:36:51,120 a there's papers on sumerians yeah 4283 02:36:55,590 --> 02:36:53,200 you know what about uh this enoch guy 4284 02:36:55,910 --> 02:36:55,600 well it talks about it in this one spot 4285 02:36:57,750 --> 02:36:55,920 or 4286 02:36:59,830 --> 02:36:57,760 like every question that anybody had in 4287 02:37:02,790 --> 02:36:59,840 the chat there was like a 4288 02:37:04,070 --> 02:37:02,800 a paper for it yeah you know i i really 4289 02:37:06,389 --> 02:37:04,080 tried to throw up throw 4290 02:37:07,349 --> 02:37:06,399 out as many ideas as we're coming to me 4291 02:37:09,510 --> 02:37:07,359 and in in the chat 4292 02:37:11,190 --> 02:37:09,520 you guys thanks for uh you know 4293 02:37:13,429 --> 02:37:11,200 commenting questions that was awesome 4294 02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:13,439 uh the whole interactive nature of it 4295 02:37:15,830 --> 02:37:15,120 but like everything we threw at him was 4296 02:37:18,790 --> 02:37:15,840 like i i 4297 02:37:19,270 --> 02:37:18,800 yep well there's and what i appreciate 4298 02:37:21,110 --> 02:37:19,280 is 4299 02:37:22,550 --> 02:37:21,120 he wasn't coming from an aspect of 4300 02:37:24,550 --> 02:37:22,560 michael wasn't coming from an 4301 02:37:25,750 --> 02:37:24,560 perspective of oh i know the answer it's 4302 02:37:28,150 --> 02:37:25,760 more like well 4303 02:37:29,349 --> 02:37:28,160 here's what's in this book and i've been 4304 02:37:31,830 --> 02:37:29,359 studying this for years 4305 02:37:33,510 --> 02:37:31,840 and this is what i know about what i 4306 02:37:35,349 --> 02:37:33,520 just love that 4307 02:37:37,990 --> 02:37:35,359 a lot of people that that that kind of 4308 02:37:40,550 --> 02:37:38,000 get into this this this scenario or 4309 02:37:42,469 --> 02:37:40,560 or come from a place of knowledge or or 4310 02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:42,479 or experience 4311 02:37:46,469 --> 02:37:45,600 often people have like this uh demeanor 4312 02:37:48,630 --> 02:37:46,479 of of 4313 02:37:49,990 --> 02:37:48,640 oh well i know what's best and right 4314 02:37:51,190 --> 02:37:50,000 dude mike just had like a good vibe 4315 02:37:53,030 --> 02:37:51,200 about him man yeah like 4316 02:37:55,590 --> 02:37:53,040 tammy said mike could be a monthly 4317 02:37:58,790 --> 02:37:55,600 regular huh 4318 02:38:01,110 --> 02:37:58,800 huh yeah i'm thinking so yeah mike was 4319 02:38:04,230 --> 02:38:01,120 cool man everybody everybody dug mike 4320 02:38:06,710 --> 02:38:04,240 yeah dude you know that was great man 4321 02:38:11,190 --> 02:38:06,720 super interesting man it's awesome how 4322 02:38:14,550 --> 02:38:13,590 how old are you dude how old are you bro 4323 02:38:17,990 --> 02:38:14,560 who are you 4324 02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:18,000 dude how old am i in my in my my in my 4325 02:38:23,670 --> 02:38:21,040 mind i'm 33. 4326 02:38:26,830 --> 02:38:23,680 in my mind or in my uh out of my body oh 4327 02:38:30,309 --> 02:38:26,840 well in my mind i'm 63 4328 02:38:33,590 --> 02:38:30,319 but am i i think my mind i'm 4329 02:38:36,070 --> 02:38:33,600 17 18 years old 4330 02:38:37,110 --> 02:38:36,080 but i say i'm 63 because like i don't 4331 02:38:39,030 --> 02:38:37,120 know like 4332 02:38:41,110 --> 02:38:39,040 yeah i don't you're you're 63 i have 4333 02:38:42,950 --> 02:38:41,120 like this grumpy old man mentality 4334 02:38:44,389 --> 02:38:42,960 a lot of times yeah and sometimes i want 4335 02:38:46,150 --> 02:38:44,399 to take naps 4336 02:38:47,990 --> 02:38:46,160 yeah i you're you're dead i'm getting 4337 02:38:51,030 --> 02:38:48,000 grumpy after my nap 4338 02:38:54,389 --> 02:38:51,040 i'm always wondering where dinner's at 4339 02:38:54,790 --> 02:38:54,399 so hungry and sleepy yeah you're so 4340 02:38:57,190 --> 02:38:54,800 you're 4341 02:38:57,830 --> 02:38:57,200 two years old well i'm 30 i just turned 4342 02:39:00,309 --> 02:38:57,840 32 4343 02:39:01,990 --> 02:39:00,319 so that was my birthday was june 28th so 4344 02:39:02,309 --> 02:39:02,000 you're only one year apart from me right 4345 02:39:05,429 --> 02:39:02,319 now 4346 02:39:06,630 --> 02:39:05,439 yeah until i have my birthday and then 4347 02:39:08,150 --> 02:39:06,640 i'm two years 4348 02:39:09,830 --> 02:39:08,160 but that's not even like for a while 4349 02:39:10,070 --> 02:39:09,840 dude so like we're really close in age 4350 02:39:12,710 --> 02:39:10,080 i'm 4351 02:39:14,070 --> 02:39:12,720 almost as old as you dude yeah you're 4352 02:39:15,670 --> 02:39:14,080 right 4353 02:39:17,510 --> 02:39:15,680 you remember that that was like the mark 4354 02:39:18,550 --> 02:39:17,520 uh like that was that was the benchmark 4355 02:39:21,110 --> 02:39:18,560 of like being cool 4356 02:39:21,670 --> 02:39:21,120 is like how old you were oh yeah like 4357 02:39:25,349 --> 02:39:21,680 you're like 4358 02:39:27,429 --> 02:39:25,359 so minor 13. 4359 02:39:28,870 --> 02:39:27,439 and what are you like 11 yeah you're 4360 02:39:30,950 --> 02:39:28,880 only 11. i'm 13. 4361 02:39:32,710 --> 02:39:30,960 well you still wear diapers dude that's 4362 02:39:33,750 --> 02:39:32,720 why i'm smarter because my mom says 4363 02:39:35,670 --> 02:39:33,760 she's older than me 4364 02:39:38,070 --> 02:39:35,680 and that's why she's smarter than me so 4365 02:39:43,349 --> 02:39:38,080 technically i'm older than you 4366 02:39:50,070 --> 02:39:47,190 yeah dude well [\h__\h] dude um 4367 02:39:51,590 --> 02:39:50,080 man that was awesome uh well i don't 4368 02:39:54,230 --> 02:39:51,600 want to step on any uh 4369 02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:54,240 we got dave spaced out radio's coming up 4370 02:39:58,469 --> 02:39:56,160 on uh y'all check out uh 4371 02:39:59,750 --> 02:39:58,479 him on space our radio deck uh the 4372 02:40:02,710 --> 02:39:59,760 youtube channel 4373 02:40:03,270 --> 02:40:02,720 starts at 11. uh let's see what we got 4374 02:40:04,950 --> 02:40:03,280 the 4375 02:40:06,710 --> 02:40:04,960 he always shows us love so i want to 4376 02:40:08,389 --> 02:40:06,720 always want to show him love too man 4377 02:40:09,990 --> 02:40:08,399 that's right i'm not sure what uh what 4378 02:40:12,710 --> 02:40:10,000 the what the guest is but 4379 02:40:14,230 --> 02:40:12,720 uh he's always got somebody good uh he 4380 02:40:15,269 --> 02:40:14,240 had geraldine on the other night man it 4381 02:40:17,349 --> 02:40:15,279 was like it was like 4382 02:40:20,309 --> 02:40:17,359 my personal therapy dude it was it was 4383 02:40:21,510 --> 02:40:20,319 great yeah geraldine is like she always 4384 02:40:24,389 --> 02:40:21,520 relaxes me 4385 02:40:25,910 --> 02:40:24,399 and puts me in like a positive mood like 4386 02:40:28,950 --> 02:40:25,920 oh 4387 02:40:31,190 --> 02:40:28,960 okay yeah i don't suck at life 4388 02:40:32,790 --> 02:40:31,200 yeah i'm just experiencing normal human 4389 02:40:35,030 --> 02:40:32,800 stuff right 4390 02:40:35,990 --> 02:40:35,040 right it does yeah she always makes me 4391 02:40:38,070 --> 02:40:36,000 feel good 4392 02:40:39,110 --> 02:40:38,080 i felt great the whole time and also 4393 02:40:45,670 --> 02:40:39,120 like 4394 02:40:47,349 --> 02:40:45,680 boom that's where my mind goes and then 4395 02:40:48,070 --> 02:40:47,359 pick you back up and say hey don't worry 4396 02:40:50,150 --> 02:40:48,080 about it hey 4397 02:40:51,590 --> 02:40:50,160 don't worry that was nice it was good 4398 02:40:54,790 --> 02:40:51,600 something about those ladies 4399 02:40:55,349 --> 02:40:54,800 vivian samantha and her man did you did 4400 02:40:58,710 --> 02:40:55,359 you catch 4401 02:41:01,990 --> 02:40:58,720 uh the space already with the uh uh 4402 02:41:03,030 --> 02:41:02,000 samantha in and no but it's downloaded i 4403 02:41:05,269 --> 02:41:03,040 have it downloaded 4404 02:41:07,349 --> 02:41:05,279 it's really good yeah yeah it's it's in 4405 02:41:09,190 --> 02:41:07,359 my list like i have like on youtube 4406 02:41:10,469 --> 02:41:09,200 on my phone i download stuff and then 4407 02:41:13,190 --> 02:41:10,479 like i have a list and 4408 02:41:15,190 --> 02:41:13,200 so each podcast is like an hour and a 4409 02:41:17,030 --> 02:41:15,200 half to two hours long so i just trying 4410 02:41:18,630 --> 02:41:17,040 to make my way through the list as i go 4411 02:41:20,469 --> 02:41:18,640 through the week i haven't gotten there 4412 02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:20,479 yet but i'm about to it's like 4413 02:41:24,790 --> 02:41:23,520 two more away hell yeah that's how you 4414 02:41:25,110 --> 02:41:24,800 beat the system you don't have to use 4415 02:41:28,950 --> 02:41:25,120 your 4416 02:41:30,790 --> 02:41:28,960 download it exactly i get it 4417 02:41:32,469 --> 02:41:30,800 anytime there's wi-fi anytime i'm in 4418 02:41:34,710 --> 02:41:32,479 home depot instead of 4419 02:41:36,710 --> 02:41:34,720 instead of doing doing what i'm supposed 4420 02:41:38,150 --> 02:41:36,720 to be doing i'm downloading youtube 4421 02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:38,160 videos 4422 02:41:41,670 --> 02:41:39,840 you've got like the wi-fi passwords for 4423 02:41:45,269 --> 02:41:41,680 all the home depots and if my boss is 4424 02:41:48,070 --> 02:41:45,279 listening i'm just kidding 4425 02:41:49,670 --> 02:41:48,080 nobody we know listen to our show anyway 4426 02:41:51,190 --> 02:41:49,680 nobody we know even our even our like 4427 02:41:54,870 --> 02:41:51,200 close friends don't even listen 4428 02:41:56,950 --> 02:41:54,880 i don't know but we have uh we have an 4429 02:41:57,349 --> 02:41:56,960 amazing group of listeners that's for 4430 02:41:59,429 --> 02:41:57,359 sure 4431 02:42:01,670 --> 02:41:59,439 yeah uh the people that have come on 4432 02:42:04,309 --> 02:42:01,680 board and like 4433 02:42:05,269 --> 02:42:04,319 it's really funny man because like we we 4434 02:42:07,429 --> 02:42:05,279 recognize 4435 02:42:09,190 --> 02:42:07,439 so many people you know yeah it's 4436 02:42:10,950 --> 02:42:09,200 beginning to be really fun like seeing 4437 02:42:12,389 --> 02:42:10,960 seeing the people that show up like oh 4438 02:42:13,990 --> 02:42:12,399 my gosh you guys like 4439 02:42:15,670 --> 02:42:14,000 y'all we're creating a little family 4440 02:42:17,510 --> 02:42:15,680 here and it's so fun to see 4441 02:42:19,190 --> 02:42:17,520 yeah definitely like the things that you 4442 02:42:21,429 --> 02:42:19,200 guys add to the like 4443 02:42:23,030 --> 02:42:21,439 the comment section and questions like 4444 02:42:24,630 --> 02:42:23,040 that makes that's that's like that's 4445 02:42:26,309 --> 02:42:24,640 making the show like you guys are just 4446 02:42:28,790 --> 02:42:26,319 as much a part of this that 4447 02:42:30,230 --> 02:42:28,800 as we are so man it's awesome so keep 4448 02:42:32,389 --> 02:42:30,240 coming back you guys 4449 02:42:33,349 --> 02:42:32,399 definitely and be excellent to each 4450 02:42:36,230 --> 02:42:33,359 other be 4451 02:42:42,370 --> 02:42:36,240 excellent to each other hell yeah well 4452 02:42:42,380 --> 02:42:47,429 [Music]